Proposal: Isles jackets prospect swap

[LordNeverLose]

That's not bad from a Jackets perspective.

I was thinking along the lines of:
Dubinsky
Milano
2019 First

For

Nelson

I'd do it. Rather also throw Clutterbuck in but that might not make sense for CBJ if they're trying to dump salary.

 

[KrisBeKreame]

No, Vegas had our 2019 2nd which they traded to Detriot. We get Calgary's 2nd in 2019 if Calgary fails to make the playoffs in 2019 or else we get their 2020 2nd.

2019 NHL Entry Draft Pending Transactions

Edit: we also send Calgary our 2019 4th if they fail to make the playoffs or else send them a 2020 4th.

 

[CBJx614]

Milano still has a ton of potential, would be idiotic to move him now

 

[CraigsList]

Can we have our 2nd back

 

[Halla]

Dal Colle has no value so it's just a 2nd for Milano. Decent value from an outside perspective imo.

id take the kid with 14g in 55 games over a 2nd any day of the week

 

[IODCPiper]

To
dal colle
Better 2nd in 2019 between isles and flames

To
Sonny Milano

Both prospects could use a change of scenery and isles get a kid that grew up an isles fan

DEAL!!!!

 

[Thrasymachus]

DEAL!!!!

is Sonny Milano a bust or something?

edit: nvm thought you were a Columbus fan

 

[IODCPiper]

To
dal colle
Better 2nd in 2019 between isles and flames

To
Sonny Milano

Both prospects could use a change of scenery and isles get a kid that grew up an isles fan

Isles add mayfield...

 

[IODCPiper]

is Sonny Milano a bust or something?

Dont think so but hasnt lived up to what jackets were hoping for i guess. Im an isles fan so i like the idea of getting him even if isles through in another small plus

 

[Thrasymachus]

Dont think so but hasnt lived up to what jackets were hoping for i guess. Im an isles fan so i like the idea of getting him even if isles through in another small plus

No I get ya I thought for a second you were a Columbus fan who slam dunk wanted to make that trade lol

Milano looks to be more talented than MDC

 

[CBJx614]

Dont think so but hasnt lived up to what jackets were hoping for i guess. Im an isles fan so i like the idea of getting him even if isles through in another small plus

I wouldn't say that. Milano has always been a boom bust player. Torts is making Milano play on both sides of the ice. If he wanted to he could unleash him and give him a ton of PP time and offensive starts. But I think he scares torts too much to play him a lot.

This will be a BIG season for Milano, there's a lot of talent that's going to be pushing for a spot and he's gotta solidify himself in the roster or he's gonna lose his spot.

 

[IODCPiper]

That's not bad from a Jackets perspective.

I was thinking along the lines of:
Dubinsky
Milano
2019 First

For

Nelson

Yours is close to that, minus the cap offset from Clutterbuck and the inclusion of Harrington and MDC + 2nd.

Why the Jackets do that:
It moves Dubinsky's cap and replaces him with Nelson who is an RFA and a bit younger. The big risk is if they lose Panarin and/or Bob and end up missing the playoffs, that 2019 1st would be quite valuable. However, I think Dubois, Wennberg, Nelson, Nash down the middle is pretty solid.

Why Islanders do that:
They get Milano and a 2019 1st (unprotected). I think given adequate opportunity Milano could play a good top-6 role similar to Grabner. I think his game would match Barzal's well. Also, Dubinsky is serviceable in the 3rd or 4th line center role albeit overpaid and north of 30. The Islanders would have to essentially eat his cap for the next 3 years so that's the biggest downside. If they have big plans for their cap in the near future then it'd be a no-go.

Dubinsky has an NMC but he may waive to play under Trotz and used to live in NYC.

Nelson is an RFA but honestly I think re-signing him would be easy for either team.

This works as well

 

[TaketheCannoli]

To
dal colle
Better 2nd in 2019 between isles and flames

To
Sonny Milano

Both prospects could use a change of scenery and isles get a kid that grew up an isles fan

No real interest in Dal Colle. Sorry

 

[MattyW]

That's not bad from a Jackets perspective.

I was thinking along the lines of:
Dubinsky
Milano
2019 First

For

Nelson
.

Wait a minute? You're a CBJ fan? And you're willing to trade Columbus' 2019 1st unprotected (AND Dubinsky and Milano) for Brock f'n Nelson?! Where do I sign up??

 

[Crede777]

Wait a minute? You're a CBJ fan? And you're willing to trade Columbus' 2019 1st unprotected (AND Dubinsky and Milano) for Brock f'n Nelson?! Where do I sign up??

I don't speak for other CBJ fans. Personally, I think the Jackets make the playoffs again next season and so the pick will be later in the 1st. I also do not think Milano has a breakthrough season unless / until he's traded. Of course, if the team drops Panarin and/or Bobrovsky then the whole scene drastically changes.

Dubinsky makes almost $6 million and has an NTC for the next 3 years. He's 32 years old and is coming off a horrid year.

 

[72hockey guy]

I don't speak for other CBJ fans. Personally, I think the Jackets make the playoffs again next season and so the pick will be later in the 1st. I also do not think Milano has a breakthrough season unless / until he's traded. Of course, if the team drops Panarin and/or Bobrovsky then the whole scene drastically changes.

Dubinsky makes almost $6 million and has an NTC for the next 3 years. He's 32 years old and is coming off a horrid year.

no worriescrede yo and Viqsi are always fair. I dont mind this because by the time the new arena opens Dubinsky should be gone, so roster wise it makes sense

 

[Viqsi]

Nelson + Dal Colle + Mayfield for Murray + Milano

MMmmmaybe. I'm kind of attached to Murray myself, but that could work surprisingly well.

* * *​

Wait a minute? You're a CBJ fan? And you're willing to trade Columbus' 2019 1st unprotected (AND Dubinsky and Milano) for Brock f'n Nelson?! Where do I sign up??

Personally, I flinch at the idea of including the 1st and would want to do a different pick conditional on whether or not Nelson rebounds to his 16-17 form.

 

[boredmale]

Milano fills absolutely no need for the Islanders(we don't need yet another LW) so I much rather just take my chances no matter how long shot they are that the 2nd rounder ends up a serviceable player

 

[Jester9881]

They have Calgary's 2nd

OP offered the higher of the two 2nds (Isles or Calgary)

 

[KrisBeKreame]

OP offered the higher of the two 2nds (Isles or Calgary)

The probelm is that we dont own our 2019 2nd (detriot does) and we dont own Calgary's 2019 2nd(unless they miss the playoffs)

 

[Jester9881]

The probelm is that we dont own our 2019 2nd (detriot does) and we dont own Calgary's 2019 2nd(unless they miss the playoffs)

I know.... that's what I was saying in my prior post to the one you quoted.

It's just a bad proposal for more than one reason.

 

[LeapOnOver]

That's not bad from a Jackets perspective.

I was thinking along the lines of:
Dubinsky
Milano
2019 First

For

Nelson

Yours is close to that, minus the cap offset from Clutterbuck and the inclusion of Harrington and MDC + 2nd.

Why the Jackets do that:
It moves Dubinsky's cap and replaces him with Nelson who is an RFA and a bit younger. The big risk is if they lose Panarin and/or Bob and end up missing the playoffs, that 2019 1st would be quite valuable. However, I think Dubois, Wennberg, Nelson, Nash down the middle is pretty solid.

Why Islanders do that:
They get Milano and a 2019 1st (unprotected). I think given adequate opportunity Milano could play a good top-6 role similar to Grabner. I think his game would match Barzal's well. Also, Dubinsky is serviceable in the 3rd or 4th line center role albeit overpaid and north of 30. The Islanders would have to essentially eat his cap for the next 3 years so that's the biggest downside. If they have big plans for their cap in the near future then it'd be a no-go.

Dubinsky has an NMC but he may waive to play under Trotz and used to live in NYC.

Nelson is an RFA but honestly I think re-signing him would be easy for either team.

I think every Islander's fan on earth would make this trade, and that's with the fact that Dubinksy is probably already an Andrew Ladd type. Think you might get some pushback from your own fanbase though, but I understand why you are doing it as Bob and Panarin are must retains.

 

[major major]

Are the Jacks down on Milano?

Not really, no. No reason to move him for a 2nd rounder. I think he's worth a mid-first. He's not a regular yet, which seems late, but with his skillset he has a lot of upside left.

 

[major major]

I doubt Jackets would actually have interest in Brock Nelson. I don't think Torts would give him a lot of minutes - he'd be like a 4th liner at 5v5, and that's not worth it.

As an isles fan I would like to know why the 22 year old Milano in his first real NHL season and also seemed to have success needs a change of scenery . Is it attitude ? He has scored more goals in 55 games this past season than MDC may score ever

LGI

He just needs minutes.

 

[MikeyMike01]

I was thinking along the lines of:
Dubinsky
Milano
2019 First

For

Nelson

Deal.