Proposal: Islanders-Red Wings

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To Detroit - Matt Barzal
To New York Islanders - Simon Edvinsson

Rationale-
Gives Detroit a fairly young, top line talent.
Gives Islanders cap room to sign Kadri AND a prominent LHD prospect to go along with Dobson.


The Wings fans will howl, and I get it.
But they still have Wallinder, Johansson, Sebrango, Viro and maybe McIsaac as solid LD prospects.
Islanders - Not sure getting a prospect is enough for Barzal - But Edvinsson is a pretty serious prospect.
 
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WingsToPick4th

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Isles are stacked on D and in net
they need young cheap stud wingers
Berggren, Bertuzzi + 1st unprotected for Barzal would be closer (isles say no)
Raymond for Barzal? (wings say no?)
 

WangMustGo

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Isles are stacked on D and in net
they need young cheap stud wingers
Berggren, Bertuzzi + 1st unprotected for Barzal would be closer (isles say no)
Raymond for Barzal? (wings say no?)

The isles are not trading Barzal for picks/prospects. The isles are in win now mode. If they miss the playoffs this year, that may change, but as of now Barzal is not available.
 
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Number1RedWingsFan52

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To Detroit - Matt Barzal
To New York Islanders - Simon Edvinsson

Rationale-
Gives Detroit a fairly young, top line talent.
Gives Islanders cap room to sign Kadri AND a prominent LHD prospect to go along with Dobson.


The Wings fans will howl, and I get it.
But they still have Wallinder, Johansson, Sebrango, Viro and maybe McIsaac as solid LD prospects.
Islanders - Not sure getting a prospect is enough for Barzal - But Edvinsson is a pretty serious prospect.
:laugh: No, Edvinsson isn't enough would still cost us at least Vrana and our 2023 1st round pick on top of Edvinsson. Not paying that price for Matthew Barzal.
 

Djp

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Sure to make room for Kadri they could trade him but they would likeky want a low salary/ ELC center coming back.

this is not a serious offer but Buffalo could offer tage thompson/ Mittlestadt with retention for Barzal straight up.
 

Zetterberg4Captain

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Bertuzzi(if vaccinated AND if signed x 5 years) plus Berggren plus Zadina plus an unprotected 1st is a good offer

But it wont happen

Bert isnt vaccinated
Bert isnt signed
SY wouldn't trade a potential lottery pick

I'd love Barzal but no chance he gets moved
 
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McJedi

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To Detroit - Matt Barzal
To New York Islanders - Simon Edvinsson

Rationale-
Gives Detroit a fairly young, top line talent.
Gives Islanders cap room to sign Kadri AND a prominent LHD prospect to go along with Dobson.


The Wings fans will howl, and I get it.
But they still have Wallinder, Johansson, Sebrango, Viro and maybe McIsaac as solid LD prospects.
Islanders - Not sure getting a prospect is enough for Barzal - But Edvinsson is a pretty serious prospect.
Barzal for Raymond would be an exciting deal.
 

MBH

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Bertuzzi(if vaccinated AND if signed x 5 years) plus Berggren plus Zadina plus an unprotected 1st is a good offer

But it wont happen

Bert isnt vaccinated
Bert isnt signed
SY wouldn't trade a potential lottery pick

I'd love Barzal but no chance he gets moved
Doesn't really give the Isles the cap relief, does it?

:laugh: No, Edvinsson isn't enough would still cost us at least Vrana and our 2023 1st round pick on top of Edvinsson. Not paying that price for Matthew Barzal.
If you are so sure you wouldn't pay it, how you sure it would cost that much?
 

CupHolders

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I don’t know what the hell Lou is going to do.

But my take is if your asking and proposing trades here, then your likely partially assuming Isles fans to play the role of GM.

Bailey or Beauvlier is available. Detroit can have either if they’re interested. Failing at making a transaction with either… I walk back with the same team.

But I’m not moving Barzal or any core player, or paying major assets to move a useful player just to overpay Kadri.
 

MBH

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Barzal for Raymond would be an exciting deal.
I'd probably do that deal easy from Detroit's perspective.
I have a much harder time giving up on the 6'6 defenseman.

Why would NYI trade Barzal just to make room for Kadri when they can move far worse pieces to get the same cap relief. Barzal is a piece you add players to help him, not trade him away for something worse.
The internet scuttle has some kind of rift between Lou and Barzal.
 

LeapOnOver

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I'd probably do that deal easy from Detroit's perspective.
I have a much harder time giving up on the 6'6 defenseman.


The internet scuttle has some kind of rift between Lou and Barzal.
That's funny considering there is scuttle among Islander fans that Barzal's exit interview caused the firing of Trotz (i don't believe any of this nonsense).
 

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