VoluntaryDom
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I don't think so but the evidence is there. I do think it was rigged in the Ewing draft however.
I do think it was rigged in the Ewing draft however.
Ewing and 2012 are the ones that i believe were actually rigged. 2014 was kind of sketchy too with the cavs having a 1% chance of winning the lottery
i really don't think '03 was rigged. the cavs had been absolutely awful for a while leading up to '03
Ewing one was so obvious
Yes. The Lakers have been screwed 3 years in a row now with getting the number 2 pick.
Boston ( through Brooklyn - again thank you Billy King ) had the best odds in the last Draft Lottery so I'm not sure what you're referring to.
This year might've been a blessing for them. Lonzo Ball looks to be the first legit baller (pun intended maybe) that was drafted 2nd overall since Durant.
I dunno if it is or not, but the Kings almost always draft lower than what they finish. Had the best odds the year Blake Griffin came out and ended up picking 4th
Cleveland did have the highest lottery odds (well, tied with Denver) in 2003 with 22.5% for the top pick.
As with any conspiracy theory threads about the NHL lottery, it doesn't take much imagination to come up with a conspiracy reason for pretty much every team. The NBA eventually went to the lottery system that it uses today (NHL uses the same procedure); Ernst and Young draws four balls out of 14 and assigns the 1,000 possible combinations.
Unless you think there's a Saul Goodman level of rigging certain balls. Realistically, there haven't been enough drawings to create a significant sample size.
As a Wolves fan I can definitively say that the they have never moved up in the draft lottery or gotten the first overall pick. Since 1990 the Wolves have had 15 chances in the lottery. In those years they had the worst record 2 times, the second worst 2 times, the third worst record 3 times, and the fifth-seventh worst record 7 times (so it is not like they were limited by late lottery odds).
They have gotten a top 3 pick in the lottery three times. In 1992 they had the worst record and ended up with pick #3; in 2008 they had the third worst record and kept pick #3; and in 2011 they had the worst record and moved down to pick #2.
Overall they've moved down in the draft 9 times due to the lottery. They moved down one spot 5 times (falling out of the top 3 once), two spots 3 times (twice falling out of the top 3), and three spots 1 time (also out of top 3).
Looking at the statistics, the probability that the Wolves should have gotten the first overall pick at least once is 86.7%. The probability that they should have moved up (or kept the #1 pick) in the draft at least once is 98.3%.
I wonder if they just keep doing it until they get the desired result
The Lakers have moved up twice in the last 3 years to land the 2nd overall pick
Combined the Raps, Kings and Wolves have moved up twice since '89 - despite obviously having far more chances in the lottery
I wonder if they just keep doing it until they get the desired result
i'm fine with the lakers getting the #2 pick the past two years because it got them ingram and ball
i'm bummed they didn't get it in '15 because KAT is a beast and I wish he was a laker
i'm fine with the lakers getting the #2 pick the past two years because it got them ingram and ball
i'm bummed they didn't get it in '15 because KAT is a beast and I wish he was a laker
- some frustrated Wolves fan over at RealGM back in '13
Wolves have since drafted Towns with the 1st overall pick, but they had the best odds that year, so it stands that the Wolves have yet to move up in the lottery
Part of the reason I am suspicious.
Here are the T-Wolves odds throughout the year:
1990: 10.61%
1991: 7.58%
1992: 16.67%
1993: 15.15%
1994: 16.4%
1995: 18.2%
1996: 12.98%
1999: 8.9%
2005: 0.5%
2006: 5.3%
2007: 5.3%
2008: 13.8%
2009: 7.6%
2010: 19.9%
2011: 25%
2012: 1.1%
2013: 1.7%
2014: 0.6%
2015: 25% (they won)
2016: 8.8%
Even with 25% odds, you still have a 75% chance of getting knocked down. Some people will claim conspiracy. I will claim math.
Mathematically speaking, what are the odds the Lakers would go from 4th to 2nd, hold at 2nd and move from 3rd to 2nd in consecutive years?
At some point in 92-96 or 2010-11 you would expect us to win...Here are the T-Wolves odds throughout the year:
1990: 10.61%
1991: 7.58%
1992: 16.67%
1993: 15.15%
1994: 16.4%
1995: 18.2%
1996: 12.98%
1999: 8.9%
2005: 0.5%
2006: 5.3%
2007: 5.3%
2008: 13.8%
2009: 7.6%
2010: 19.9%
2011: 25%
2012: 1.1%
2013: 1.7%
2014: 0.6%
2015: 25% (they won)
2016: 8.8%
Even with 25% odds, you still have a 75% chance of getting knocked down. Some people will claim conspiracy. I will claim math.
At some point in 92-96 or 2010-11 you would expect us to win...