News Article: Is Lecavalier offering to retire early to facilitate trade out of Philly?

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Hey guys,

Not sure if this was posted already - but very interesting nonetheless. If this happens, yes!

EDIT: Here is the link:
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/...tire-early-to-facilitate-trade-out-of-philly/

Very interesting comment from the agent of unhappy Flyers forward Vincent Lecavalier.

“The situation hasn’t met either side’s expectations in Philadelphia,” Kent Hughes told NJ Advance Media. “If Vinny wants the opportunity to end a fantastic career on a good note, it’s not going to happen so long as Craig Berube is head coach of the Philadelphia Flyers. I’m sure if Vinny found a good environment … an opportunity to go to a new team and end on a good note, I wouldn’t be surprised if he retired before finishing the term of his deal.”

Lecavalier, 34, is signed for three more seasons at a cap hit of $4.5 million. If he were to retire early, his team would not be stuck with his cap hit.

Lecavalier has seven goals and 11 assists in 51 games this season, while averaging just 12:48 of ice time. He last played March 17 in Vancouver and has been a healthy scratch in the three games since.

A four-time All-Star, Lecavalier’s most common linemates in 2014-15 have been fourth-liners Pierre-Edouard Bellemare and Chris VandeVelde.

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[Danko]

Hey guys,

Not sure if this was posted already - but very interesting nonetheless. If this happens, yes!

Where is this from?

 

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Where is this from?

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/...tire-early-to-facilitate-trade-out-of-philly/

Link added to first post.

 

[deadhead]

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/...tire-early-to-facilitate-trade-out-of-philly/

Link added to first post.

If he wants to opt out of his contract, where do we sign?

 

[GKJ]

It's not the first time Vinny retiring has been brought up this season.

 

[hckyplayer8]

One can only hope.

 

[Jtown]

If i was a competitive team , i could not take that risk. Vinny thinks he isn't playing because its a bad fit. It's not a bad fit, he has just regressed to the point where he is a liability everytime he is on the ice.

 

[Sombastate]

So he'll retire early if he goes to a team he actually wants to play for, but will fulfill his contract on a team he doesn't want to play for?

How does that make sense?

 

[Striiker]

The problem with him is that, even if you completely ignore his contract, there's nowhere to put him. There's just nothing thy he's especially good at or useful as but there's plenty of things where he's below average.

I mean where does he really excel?

Hockey IQ? Nope.
Passing? Nope.
Shooting? Nope. (I can't remember the last time he actually ripped a nice shot even though we thought that was something that would hold up even if he slowed down)
Defense? Nope.
Skating? Nope.
PP? Nope.
PK? Nope.
Boards? Nope.
Fighting? Nope.
Hitting? Nope.

Even someone like VV is good at working the puck along the boards in the offensive zone and PKing.

 

[onlylordsvsmorebp]

its happening....i really think/hope/pray he'll retire.

 

[daynus]

My buddy popped down at work, and he's like, just checked on my iPhone and he gave me the vinny news, I was like, if I do not win, on the lotto, this news is pretty close to winning a lotto.

 

[Schwarbomb]

What a brutal free agent signing Vinny has been.

 

[WhiskeyBoarder]

it’s not going to happen so long as Craig Berube is head coach of the Philadelphia Flyers.

So, wait...

Keeping Berube == Vinny leaves
Firing Berube == Vinny stays?

Is this some kind of torturous paradox?

 

[Larry44]

So, wait...

Keeping Berube == Vinny leaves
Firing Berube == Vinny stays?

Is this some kind of torturous paradox?

No. There is a solution: lose'em both.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

No. There is a solution: lose'em both.

I think you missed his point.

 

[BillDineen]

Is there any Kovalchuk-type possibility out there? Vinny gets his big bonus July 1, retires, sits out a year and tries a comeback with another team to finish his career in better situation?

If keeping Berube around until July 15 lets that happen, I am all for it!

EDIT: One year might be too short and he would have to wait longer?

 

[PK16]

I think you missed his point.

Yes... He missed the point. I agree with you... If we are supposed to take the agent's words at face value, then getting rid of Berube and getting a new coach means Vinny will stay for the remainder of his contract. At this point I would rather have a new coach and keep Vinny. Also, he missed the point in that if we could easily get rid of Vinny without hurting the team, like taking a worse contract, it would have already been done. Obviously, it is not that easy to move him without taking a hit.

This issue and the agent's contract have been discussed in the Vinny player thread. Not sure we need a new thread for this.

 

[BernieParent]

It is in line with the Town Hall meeting comments from Berube (IIRC) that Lecavalier isn't the prolific goal scorer he was a decade ago and needs to change his game.

 

[Mylec 22]

Not sure we need a new thread for this.

Then why contribute to it?

 

[Flyotes]

It is in line with the Town Hall meeting comments from Berube (IIRC) that Lecavalier isn't the prolific goal scorer he was a decade ago and needs to change his game.

Yes, this was said, and I agree. The tone was almost like: ..... and he hasn't sooo....

 

[Larry44]

Yes... He missed the point. I agree with you... If we are supposed to take the agent's words at face value, then getting rid of Berube and getting a new coach means Vinny will stay for the remainder of his contract. At this point I would rather have a new coach and keep Vinny. Also, he missed the point in that if we could easily get rid of Vinny without hurting the team, like taking a worse contract, it would have already been done. Obviously, it is not that easy to move him without taking a hit.

This issue and the agent's contract have been discussed in the Vinny player thread. Not sure we need a new thread for this.

No, it doesn't mean any of this at all. Getting a new coach that is not Berube doesn't mean Vinny will be stay for the duration of his contract. He may say so, but it's not up to him.

There is no reason to believe that a new coach, assuming he is not visually impaired, will give him a playing role. I hope they would not.

Do you really think Babcock/Deboer/Keenan/Whoever comes in next year and puts Vinny in the top 6 or even top 9?

Vinny is done as a Flyer, whether that means three more years in the friggin' press box or whether he retires or whether they can trade him for something and eat salary/take on a dump.

Hexy is not going to let Vinny fester here next year.

 

[PK16]

No, it doesn't mean any of this at all. Getting a new coach that is not Berube doesn't mean Vinny will be stay for the duration of his contract. He may say so, but it's not up to him.

There is no reason to believe that a new coach, assuming he is not visually impaired, will give him a playing role. I hope they would not.

Do you really think Babcock/Deboer/Keenan/Whoever comes in next year and puts Vinny in the top 6 or even top 9?

Vinny is done as a Flyer, whether that means three more years in the friggin' press box or whether he retires or whether they can trade him for something and eat salary/take on a dump.

Hexy is not going to let Vinny fester here next year.

Vinny has more say over his future than you think. He has an NMC and can sit in the press box while taking up needed cap space. Whether he chooses to do so , neither you or anyone else can say. If you take the article at face value, a new coach means he would play out his contract. The rest of your comments are just your own speculation.

 

[Larry44]

Vinny has more say over his future than you think. He has an NMC and can sit in the press box while taking up needed cap space. Whether he chooses to do so , neither you or anyone else can say. If you take the article at face value, a new coach means he would play out his contract. The rest of your comments are just your own speculation.

Who cares about the flawed logic of an article? IF the new coach nails him to the bench or pressbox, as his play deserves, what difference does it make that Berube is gone?

Hexy will try to trade him after the Flyers pay his bonus. If it can't be done, he'll get bought out. They aren't going to have his festering corpse hanging around the room another year.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I doubt the situation changes much next year even with a new coach so Vinny would need to start looking at himself & not others.

IMO he's back next year then retires after the season is over.

 

[GKJ]

Frank Seravalli wrote a decent article. Despite Lecavalier's troubles, and non-production, there was that stretch where he, Bellemare and Vandevelde were hitting it off after Lecavalier was scratched.