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Jiminy Crickets Let's Cut the Hubris
All the usual suspects out on their opportunity to bring up "the country is dying."
Have you seen Finland? There's like 100k people packed into one square when they win a world championship lolCanada has the third largest population of any hockey nation after the US and Russia.
The cultural importance of the sport is unmatched in any other nation, including the US.
It will continue to produce high end hockey players for decades.
The current lack of elite Canadian goalies is disappointing.
It's objectively not going well here lol.All the usual suspects out on their opportunity to bring up "the country is dying."
No, but if the trends of the last 10 years continue it will be. You can only price out the demographic who is passionate about it while replacing the dying population with Indians for so long before it catches up to hockey in Canada.
"Low key." Either something is racist or it's not. Just tossing words for the sake of it? "Racist" has lost its meaning thanks to it being used to combat any message the listener disagrees with. Eyes do not lie. When the video of that kid Canucks fan surfaced, showing him cursing out Hyman and Campbell, how many non-Indians could you count? To say the Canucks have a large amount of Indian fans is as about as racist as saying the Oilers have a majority of white fans. It'a just facts.
Ya I don’t listen to dumb uninformed posts like that, looking for clicks, just shows they don’t understand the game or the business side of it.All the usual suspects out on their opportunity to bring up "the country is dying."
The United States is taking over as the hockey superpower with them churning out players. Canada seems to be falling behind.
One thing lost in the immigration discussion is that Canadian born whites are also moving away from the sport. Basketball continues to boom in all demographics here.
The NHL becoming more money based also means that the diversity from incoming Canadian white populations is shrinking. 30 years ago you would get kids of immigrants from all over Europe. The best Canadians in 1990 were not just British. Gretzky, Yzerman, Sakic, Hawerchuk (Esposito and Sawchuk earlier). You had strong French representation in Lemieux, Roy, Bourque. Even western Canadian Messier. Plus the Anglos like Coffey, MacInnis, Oates, Hull.
Now, the top Canadians reads very Anglo. McDavid. Crosby. MacKinnon. Marner. Point. Hyman, Reinhart, and Makar are the only superstar Canadians not from a British background. Bouchard for the western Canadian French. Some comes from Anglicizing names, but a lot of it is that immigrants from 1950 aren't old money yet.
The old money in this country is still primarily of British extract. And as hockey becomes increasingly closed doors financially it manifests in a league without Ukrainian Canadians.
It wasn't that long ago that Stamkos and Tavares broke through from ethnic backgrounds.
And yes, I know Celebrini is an Italian name.
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But they weren't Anglos.Stamkos and Tavares were already 3rd generation Canadian, not children of immigrants.
Tough to say just with a cursory glance of last names. White Americans and Canadians are very anglo-dominant, maybe even more so in Canada due to the much closer modern links. Then you have anglification of names, then you consider a 4th gen Canadian could have 8 great grandparents that came from various places.But they weren't Anglos.
Hockey went from Anglo only to very diverse, and is shifting back to Anglo dominant.
Old money.
Just the death of the monoculture in general also plays into it. I doubt you'd get a modern day OJ Simpson Trial in the U.S. for instance. It's no longer a question of "what's on", there are limitless ways to captivate a person's attention now, so no one space can dominate to the same extent.
You also have the internet which makes way easier to follow sports teams across the pond. A few years in the middle of Walmart near me there was a South African dude watching South African domestic rugby right in his phone . This was in St. Paul MinnesotaStamkos and Tavares were already 3rd generation Canadian, not children of immigrants. I don't think the genealogy test matters so much as the point that recent waves of immigration aren't integrating newly arriving folks into an existing cultural fabric the same as prior ones, with something like hockey being a big marker of that.
Also basketball association with hip hop also helpsStamkos and Tavares were already 3rd generation Canadian, not children of immigrants. I don't think the genealogy test matters so much as the point that recent waves of immigration aren't integrating newly arriving folks into an existing cultural fabric the same as prior ones, with something like hockey being a big marker of that.
Our population has grown by what? 3.5M people in the past few years. All or most are migrants from India. We are a fast changing demographic.
Hockey is NOT a popular sport in India.
Canada's future national sport is soon to be cricket.
Future anthem will be;
I stopped cooking the steak out of the back of my $50 000 truck with Sea-doo just to say “the country is dying”.All the usual suspects out on their opportunity to bring up "the country is dying."
I think the biggest change is that hockey was an immigrant's way of becoming Canadian. It really was the method by which any family could integrate into Canada. That has shifted with South Asian immigration, which is attracting hockey fans still, but not so many hockey players. Conversely it still continues in this country that a lot of good indigenous hockey players at the youth level will never get past that point because of the cost barriers, as well as other factors.One thing lost in the immigration discussion is that Canadian born whites are also moving away from the sport. Basketball continues to boom in all demographics here.
The NHL becoming more money based also means that the diversity from incoming Canadian white populations is shrinking. 30 years ago you would get kids of immigrants from all over Europe. The best Canadians in 1990 were not just British. Gretzky, Yzerman, Sakic, Hawerchuk (Esposito and Sawchuk earlier). You had strong French representation in Lemieux, Roy, Bourque. Even western Canadian Messier. Plus the Anglos like Coffey, MacInnis, Oates, Hull.
Now, the top Canadians reads very Anglo. McDavid. Crosby. MacKinnon. Marner. Point. Hyman, Reinhart, and Makar are the only superstar Canadians not from a British background. Bouchard for the western Canadian French. Some comes from Anglicizing names, but a lot of it is that immigrants from 1950 aren't old money yet.
The old money in this country is still primarily of British extract. And as hockey becomes increasingly closed doors financially it manifests in a league without Ukrainian Canadians.
It wasn't that long ago that Stamkos and Tavares broke through from ethnic backgrounds.
And yes, I know Celebrini is an Italian name.
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1) Things are not ok in Canada
2) We are facing issues very unique to ourselves, we are not simply following global trends.
3) Immigration and absolutely insane rate of population growth is (one of) the direct cause(s) whether you say so or not. It's not a "critique of immigrants" to talk about facts, give it up. It's absolutely true that the country is taking in too many people too quickly right now.
who can afford to put their kids in hockey these days?
Well you're wrong but appreciate your opinion.Things are fine in Canada, no more worse off than other G7 nations or other economic downturns we have seen over the decades.
Though immigration is a problem it seems to bring worked on
It costs an arm and a leg to play . Its not a race issue. Has nothing to do with the color of the immigrants skin.
Look at all these first overall and top picks coming out of NA , they all have parents who build rinks for their kids. They also all live in rural areas and have two parents and cars.
Wayne Gretzky did. and so did Connor McDavid.
There's no come up stories in Canadian hockey.
I remember us celebrating Arber Jackeye as an amazing come up story simply because he actually had a job at Costco. The struggle is real when a 18-19-20 year old has to have a job what a brave person he really overcame all the odds!
Well you're wrong but appreciate your opinion.
Immigration is being worked on you say? 500k new people through the first 4 months of this year.
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