Helene St. James Is Detroit Still a Desirable Destination?
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Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 59s Wings offered Dan Boyle three years at $12.5 million ($5M, $5M and $2.5M) but he took two years, $9 million from Rangers.
That's $4.167 MM AAV for three.
Rangers: 2 yrs, $4.5 MM AAV
Net of $3.5 MM more from the Wings, and one extra year.
Boyle is very good friends with Martin St. Louis...that probably factored in greatly when he made his decision.
They also just made it to the Cup finals.
Mule? The guy that everybody here dogs constantly for effort but he always gets top PP time and guaranteed top 6 minutes?
Which narrative am I supposed to believe? That Mule should hate Babcock or that he's getting a free ride?
icKx
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Up-and-coming teams.
I think players see our aging core, the lack of blue-chip prospects (yes we have some nice pieces but no MacKinnon), and know a full on rebuild is coming with Datsyuk's retirement, plus the coaching situation is uncertain.
I don't think the Devellano lockout comments helped our brand perception either.
this snowball all started with holland's initial lowball to suter.
we'll never know what might have happened if holland had actually submitted a competitive offer before things got desperate.
thanks, kenny!
we'll never know what might have happened if holland had actually submitted a competitive offer before things got desperate.
thanks, kenny!
Starting to? Since we lost in 2009 Holland had done 100% **** all to improve this team. He is top 5 worst gm's in the last 5 years
Cyborg Yzerberg
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Today sucked, but I dunno, I don't think this is something we can properly measure on aggregate. I don't think today's results conclude one way or another of how desirable it is to play in Detroit. It just seems like an overreaction. I mean, obviously we don't have the pull we did when we were President Trophy winners, but that's just the nature of Sports.
Toronto hasn't landed any significant UFAs. And the one they did, Clarkson, is a disaster on ice.
Florida has been "up and coming" for 15 years. Today they signed a bunch of bloated deals to hit the cap floor.
Eye of Ra
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If im not misstaken, Detroit is a violent town with a lot of foreigners. A little bit like Malmo.
Maybe thats why.
Maybe thats why.
Reality Check
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Basically.
The team is a lot younger and drafting well and is still a playoff contender. But they don't have the high end picks to really entice people.
Vladdy84
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Vladdy84
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Shanny left after his first year under Babs.
No, not really.
At no one in particular, we can dissect these one by one all you want, but in aggregate, Detroit is offering more money and term and getting turned down by everyone they target.
I guess Holland is going to have to talk to some player agents and get some feedback.
Chicago is often referred to as Chiraq, it doesn't hurt their ability to attract guys.
The cities perception has probably played into some players decisions, just as having friends on other teams plays into it, family and all kinds of other things factor into players decisions as well.
I don't buy the narrative that because we struck out today that nobody wants to play here. Maybe we're no longer quite the draw we were when playing for the cup every year, but we still have the ability to attract guys. We just didn't have the ability to attract the ones we tried to get today.
Maybe it wouldn't have changed things but if Holland had given the offer he got from Minny and said take it or leave it by today maybe he'd have signed. If I remember correctly they went back and forth and Minny was able to up their offer, that and Parise in his ear. Who knows
Are players turning NJD down due to their arena location?
The Wings are getting a new building, and as everyone has mentioned, the players live in some really nice areas, ritzy. It's a metro area of nearly 5 million. Detroit, the city doesn't even have a million inhabitants left. You just go there for the practices and games.
DeYarmond Edison
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Depressing. But players are finally realizing that this team is average and has the potential to get even worse. We have some great prospects but you have to doubt any will reach Z/D potential.
Vladdy84
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ArGarBarGar
What do we want!? Unfair!
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This is revisionist history.
1. The Wings made a competitive offer to Suter.
2. Media on July 1st implied Suter was a done deal.
3. The Wings were never given a chance to counter Minnesota's offer.
People really don't understand that no matter what team you are, free agency can be a crapshoot.
The Tigers don't have a salary cap. Also how many great free agents to they acquire anyway?
PullHard
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We got a career captain of somethingteen years to jump ship just a year ago. Sure, Melnyk and the Sens have a bad rep as being cheap, sure. Fair point. Until this happens again (meaning: try and fail at numerous players, and hearing reports that we offered more lucrative deals) I won't lose too much sleep over it. We probably still sign guys tonight/ tomorrow/ this week anyway. So we missed a couple big fish one year. We missed Suter, too. It happens.
Pavels Dog
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Agreed. It's definitely an overreaction, but there's also no big reason to pick us before a lot of other teams because lately we've barely made the playoffs and not really had any deep runs.
We either need to trade to improve or hope that some of our kids take huge leaps.
