Interest in Tavares?

[GreatGordie9]

Tavares is not an Yzerman type player.
Toronto can't retain salary.

Since he only has one year left, Toronto might as well just ride out the last year instead of giving up capital to dump him.

No deal to be made.

The Leafs will be more concerned to get a new head coach first as Keefe got canned.

 

[FabricDetails]

This question, and the responses it's generating, are such a good litmus test for this forum lol. Thanks for posting it.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know... I've wasted time in worse ways than the few minutes of vetting thought process, haha.

 

[FMichael]

Tavares is not an Yzerman type player.
Toronto can't retain salary.

Since he only has one year left, Toronto might as well just ride out the last year instead of giving up capital to dump him.

No deal to be made.

I'm curious as to how JT is not a SY type of player?

Thoughts?

 

[14ari13]

I would definitely do it. The reason is simple. We trade 2 roster players for 1. It opens 1 roster spot which we need.
Fabbri, Maatta/Holl +++ for Tavares +++
I have no idea what Toronto has to do with their cap space. Tavares has 1 year left, Fabbri and Maatta too. So 7M for 11M. They get 4M cap space.

 

[ShanahanMan]

So based on the end of season press conference today, that entire core minus Nylander is on the table.

Kasper+Berg+2024 1st for Marner please.

 

[Gniwder]

I would definitely do it. The reason is simple. We trade 2 roster players for 1. It opens 1 roster spot which we need.
Fabbri, Maatta/Holl +++ for Tavares +++
I have no idea what Toronto has to do with their cap space. Tavares has 1 year left, Fabbri and Maatta too. So 7M for 11M. They get 4M cap space.

Don't forget to add a 2nd round pick and 50% retention for Tavarres, lol.

Trevling covets our garbage. All of it. He's in the dumpster right now wearing a Nomex suit because as you know, our dumpster is on fire.

 

[Bondurant]

If Yzerman can cook up a good deal with his Jedi mind tricks I wouldn't oppose. He still has some in the tank. Getting out of the Toronto media sewer is a plus.

 

[RabidBadger]

So based on the end of season press conference today, that entire core minus Nylander is on the table.

Kasper+Berg+2024 1st for Marner please.

I doubt Toronto trades Marner without a defenseman coming back to them. Even if they free up cap space making a trade like that it's slim pickings in the UFA market for Dmen.

 

[14ari13]

Don't forget to add a 2nd round pick and 50% retention for Tavarres, lol.

Trevling covets our garbage. All of it. He's in the dumpster right now wearing a Nomex suit because as you know, our dumpster is on fire.

I am not sure what you mean, but judging by your response you completely misunderstood what I wrote.
I can simplify it for you. I'll simply just drop the names.

We trade
1. 4M+3/3/2,5M for 11M.
The Leafs get 4-5M cap space. We can afford some cap space.
2. We trade 2 roster spots for 1. This gives us one roster spot which we (desperately need)

Yzerman has obviously signed up too many veterans and buying out bad contracts is not an option.
We just got rid of Vranas buyout and soon Abdelkaders too. Buying out players is a huge mistake for Yzerman at this point.

 

[Gniwder]

I am not sure what you mean, but judging by your response you completely misunderstood what I wrote.
I can simplify it for you. I'll simply just drop the names.

We trade
1. 4M+3/3/2,5M for 11M.
The Leafs get 4-5M cap space. We can afford some cap space.
2. We trade 2 roster spots for 1. This gives us one roster spot which we (desperately need)

Yzerman has obviously signed up too many veterans and buying out bad contracts is not an option.
We just got rid of Vranas buyout and soon Abdelkaders too. Buying out players is a huge mistake for Yzerman at this point.

Toronto does not want our garbage dude.

 

[14ari13]

Toronto does not want our garbage dude.

Cap space is not garbage dude, in some instances it is the biggest asset.

If we trade Fabbri and Petry for Tavares it would give them 4+M cap space.

 

[Oddbob]

Toronto does not want our garbage dude.

I don't know, priority makes pretty good bins I hear, so just put the players in one of the brand new dumpster style ones and they might like it.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Cap space is not garbage dude, in some instances it is the biggest asset.

If we trade Fabbri and Petry for Tavares it would give them 4+M cap space.

You don't think they can get a better deal than this?

 

[1878rgw]

I thought SY likes to create a winning culture, why would he trade for one of Torntos poster boys of losing?

 

[Snuggs]

The move for Toronto if Tavares will waive his NTC is Chicago/ Seth Jones.

No way they accept the above trade from the Red Wings, they'll be able to get better, Petry has a NTC as well that'd have to be waived if I remember right.

Did it seem like Auston Matthews might be available?

 

[Ulysses31]

You don't think they can get a better deal than this?

imo tavares is good 2c but about 3 mill overpaid. is it worth it to take his contract for future considerations?

 

[lilidk]

I'd rather see Brad Marchand in a Wings uniform than Tavares.

On second thought...still no.

Can we, can we?

 

[FMichael]

I thought SY likes to create a winning culture, why would he trade for one of Torntos poster boys of losing?

Murphy, Macoun, and Rouse…And no they’re not a law firm.

 

[WestlakeWingFan]

The move for Toronto if Tavares will waive his NTC is Chicago/ Seth Jones.

No way they accept the above trade from the Red Wings, they'll be able to get better, Petry has a NTC as well that'd have to be waived if I remember right.

Did it seem like Auston Matthews might be available?

Correct on the NMC for Petry. He came home to finish his career. Not going anywhere unless he retires, but with three teams paying him that’s highly unlikely.

No chance Toronto moves Matthews.

 

[1878rgw]

Murphy, Macoun, and Rouse…And no they’re not a law firm.

Tavares has won two play off series in his NHL career, Murphy had two cups, Macoun one when they joined the Wings.
He is a good player but not a winner.

 

[WingFanSD]

no to JT or Marner. great in the reg season but dog shit in po. we dont need them or their salary. rather keep our prospects and let them grow. or if trade a prospect for someone that brings so much more.

 

[Bondurant]

I thought SY likes to create a winning culture, why would he trade for one of Torntos poster boys of losing?

Toronto is a loser with or without Tavares.

 

[DoMakc]

no to JT or Marner. great in the reg season but dog shit in po. we dont need them or their salary. rather keep our prospects and let them grow. or if trade a prospect for someone that brings so much more.

Maybe Red Wings should make playoffs for a change before talking about dog shit. I would really enjoy see Tavares as a Red Wing struggeling in playoffs. It is almost impossible to fit Tavares under the cap though, Leafs need to pay handsomely to make it happen.

 

[WingFanSD]

Maybe Red Wings should make playoffs for a change before talking about dog shit. I would really enjoy see Tavares as a Red Wing struggeling in playoffs. It is almost impossible to fit Tavares under the cap though, Leafs need to pay handsomely to make it happen.

yeah maybe but i rather not see JT on the team. we were close to making it with out him. rather try and make it with younger players and bring a ufa if possible. rather see a struggling rookie in the playoffs then a 11m player. rather see a future wing that will be with them for yrs and not someone who will be around a yr or 2.

 

[FMichael]

Maybe Red Wings should make playoffs for a change before talking about dog shit. I would really enjoy see Tavares as a Red Wing struggeling in playoffs. It is almost impossible to fit Tavares under the cap though, Leafs need to pay handsomely to make it happen.

I too would not mind seeing JT in Detroit - he would instantly become that bonafide 2nd line center that everyone feels we need…But yeah - with only 1 yr left under contract - it is a hefty cap hit…I would assume he’d likely play another 2, or 3 seasons after next - likely with a reduced cap hit.