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Rumor: Ilya Vorobyov: The Russians are Coming; the Russians are Coming!

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SantosLHalpar said:
I swear to God this guy was the baddie from Red Alert 2.
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Comrade Anatoly Cherdenko was the Soviet premier, after his retirement he became a hockey coach.

So show some damn respect you PEONS.
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Hey if this helps us get Lipstick and Goldy back then it's worth it

In all seriousness Metallurg has a LD in Grigori Dronov i would be very interested in.
 
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timw33 said:
Wondering if management is seeing the market inefficiency with Russian players, free agents, and prospects in a highly russophobic league. Carolina saw this last year at the draft and picked up some high quality prospects without picking in the top 50.
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I've been wondering the same thing.

If the Canucks were to develop a system in which young Russians were comfortable spending time in the AHL, that'd be a step toward exploiting that inefficiency.
 
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timw33 said:
Wondering if management is seeing the market inefficiency with Russian players, free agents, and prospects in a highly russophobic league. Carolina saw this last year at the draft and picked up some high quality prospects without picking in the top 50.
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It's inevitable, we're drafting the next Pavel Bure in the late rounds when everyone else assumes he would've been conscripted to become part of a mobik meat paste in Ukraine.
 
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timw33 said:
Wondering if management is seeing the market inefficiency with Russian players, free agents, and prospects in a highly russophobic league. Carolina saw this last year at the draft and picked up some high quality prospects without picking in the top 50.
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In my view this is almost certainly what's happening - a moneypuck thing on Russians who are undervalued due to the current instability there. And historical biases against Russians in general.

And yeah, Carolina appears to be doing some similar things - 4 of their 7 picks last year were from Russia. And it's never a bad thing to be doing the same thing as Carolina.

Of course, the risk exists that this could blow up spectacularly if a whole bunch of players end up getting stuck in Russia in some future offseason.
 
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MS said:
In my view this is almost certainly what's happening - a moneypuck thing on Russians who are undervalued due to the current instability there. And historical biases against Russians in general.

And yeah, Carolina appears to be doing some similar things - 4 of their 7 picks last year were from Russia. And it's never a bad thing to be doing the same thing as Carolina.

Of course, the risk exists that this could blow up spectacularly if a whole bunch of players end up getting stuck in Russia in some future offseason.
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I've been wanting to ask this for a while now: what happens in the event that a Russian player is stuck back there? Also in what event would that happen? If said player was to visit home during summer? Or they play a bit more hockey back home when NHL is in the off season?

If for example Kuzmenko went home and he couldn't leave for whatever reason, will the league just give the team a "tough shit, you signed him, you deal with this, it's not our problem"?
 

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valkynax said:
I've been wanting to ask this for a while now: what happens in the event that a Russian player is stuck back there? Also in what event would that happen? If said player was to visit home during summer? Or they play a bit more hockey back home when NHL is in the off season?

If for example Kuzmenko went home and he couldn't leave for whatever reason, will the league just give the team a "tough shit, you signed him, you deal with this, it's not our problem"?
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Something would certainly be allowed to happen, whether it's treated like a LTIR situation or whether it's removed from the cap picture entirely.

There's no way that players who aren't playing and aren't getting paid would be taking up cap room unconditionally.
 
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MS said:
Something would certainly be allowed to happen, whether it's treated like a LTIR situation or whether it's removed from the cap picture entirely.

There's no way that players who aren't playing and aren't getting paid would be taking up cap room unconditionally.
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Ok so it could be that the player will not count towards roster space and his cap space is taken out of the cap limit for the time being? LTIR does that too right?
 

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timw33 said:
Wondering if management is seeing the market inefficiency with Russian players, free agents, and prospects in a highly russophobic league. Carolina saw this last year at the draft and picked up some high quality prospects without picking in the top 50.
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Especially after the Kuzmenko hit - you would have to think this is this case.

Even Mikheyev was an undrafted free agent from the KHL.

They are probably onto something here... getting successful hits from the KHL is probably a massive market inefficiency right now.

Wonder if they'll look at someone like Nikita Gusev (highest PPG) in KHL if we trade some wingers. Had 44 points in 66 NHL games in 19-20... still only 30.
 
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Silly conspiracy theory time!

He lived in Germany and, therefore, must speak German. Do you know who speaks German? Austrians. Who is Austrian? David Reinbacher.

Canucks are taking David Reinbacher in the draft! Open your eyes sheeple!
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Paving the way for the return of Sven Butenschon!
 
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