Rumor: Ilya Kovalchuk will be signing a 2-3 year deal with NYR

[ReggieDunlop68]

How can any of you be in favor of that given RangersTown™ history?

Look...

Signing Kovy is not in order to "get our Russians over here". It's do have a huge name to please the pestilence between 7th and 8th.

Pls no to the signing.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I'm down.

Never heard a bad thing about him from his fellow players. Have to believe it helps Shestyorkin and especially Rykov come over.

^This

Not a single person in Russia let alone just his team ever said a word to me about Kovy not being nice.

 

[Rangers2319]

How can any of you be in favor of that given RangersTown™ history?

Look...

Signing Kovy is not in order to "get our Russians over here". It's do have a huge name to please the pestilence between 7th and 8th.

Pls no to the signing.

bc its a no lose situation to sign him, don't be a stubborn person who is stuck on "youth" you need veterans on the team

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

So another quick fix rebuild it seems.

Exactly. Ask the Wild how their #1 pool worked out in 2012 when Dumba/Granlund /Brodin at around 10th overall were their gems. Now their "contention" is due to E Staal and giving monstrous deals to Parise and Suter.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Inject Kovalchuk-Hayes-Chytil directly into my veins

Seppuku for such a disaster season and wasting the King's career?

 

[Cassano]

Exactly. Ask the Wild how their #1 pool worked out in 2012 when Dumba/Granlund /Brodin at around 10th overall were their gems. Now their "contention" is due to E Staal and giving monstrous deals to Parise and Suter.

Yup, scary thing is, those players are all pretty good. It's extremely hard to pick up an elite player outside the top 5 unless you're Tampa.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

bc its a no lose situation to sign him, don't be a stubborn person who is stuck on "youth" you need veterans on the team

This is RangersTown™.

You are aware this isn't an expansion franchise. It has a long documented history of stupid shit and short term moves.

 

[nyr2k2]

That's all true. However, what of the teams that took the "long term approach" and still suck? I mean neither approach is a guarantee to get you back to where you want to be.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

The Underrated part of this. This will help shesty and rykov come over, but Nikitia Gusev is a ufa come next year. I wonder if this helps us acquire him.

Why?

This isn't the fall of the iron curtain late 80s. Russian players are not afraid to be millionaires in other cities unless you bring in an old comrade from the Warsaw Pact first.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

I'm just here for the nopuckluck anti-Russian bias memes.
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[nyr2k2]

I don't think the team is going to be actually competent until defensive reinforcements arrive. I really don't think a potential top 4 of Skjei-Shattenkirk, Staal-Pionk next year is going to cut it.

Definitely need to address that, and I would expect the team to find someone to bring in that can play competent top-four minutes. I also expect the defense to look better, even with the roster as it currently stands, with a new coach and a less-demanding system.

 

[GregSirico]

JT wouldn't sign here and do that to the Islanders. Just won't happen. He's too classy of a guy.

Bruh don't be shocked. I think for JT it's either about MONEY or WINNING. I don't see a scenario that fits both. He can take less go to Toronto (if they can fit it) OR really go for the money and say go to Vegas or St Louis. But NYR is not a terrible option if he believes in Jeff's plan.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Bruh don't be shocked. I think for JT it's either about MONEY or WINNING. I don't see a scenario that fits both. He can take less go to Toronto (if they can fit it) OR really go for the money and say go to Vegas or St Louis. But NYR is not a terrible option if he believes in Jeff's plan.

Honestly with the way things are shaped up right now, he has a better opportunity to win in Brooklyn and they can offer him more money than anyone (they have that 8th year option.)

He isn't coming here. Despite what McKenzie said, the Rangers have been pretty steadfast on not wanting to hand out those 5-6-7 year deals.

 

[eco's bones]

I had mixed feelings when I first heard this. One thing that has been stated many times is that the Rangers are filled with Type B personalities, and absolutely zero Type A. From everything I have read, Kovy is a type A, well respected, and well liked by teammates. I personally wanted for the Rangers to go into this season with a Type A vet. The downside is that he can no longer play in the NHL and he will help us get higher picks for the rebuild!

Lundqvist is a type A. Zucc and Kreider kind of waver between A and B. After that it's all B.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I'll say this... I had season tickets to the Thrashers (well, my father and uncle) and went to a lot of games when they were here. If Kovalchuk's shot is even 75% of what it used to be, he will be very fun to watch in a Rangers uniform. Frustrating as all hell, but fun. He doesn't back check. He shy's away from contact. He half asses it for long stretches of time. He is basically a modern day Alexei Kovalev. At the same time, he can blast a puck unlike anyone on this team, he is feisty, he is ridiculously talented and, some of our kids could benefit from playing with a talent like that.

I am hoping that Kovalchuk can do for Buch what Jagr did for Dubinsky. It was clear as day that Dubi modeled his game after Jags. The way Dubinsky learned how to protect the puck by sticking his ass out, how to cycle and maintain posession... If Kovalchuk can teach Buch how to shoot the puck...

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Fine by me

Probably seals Zucc’s fate, which is sad.

As long as they don’t tie up money long term it’s fine

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

A full tank doesnt guarantee anything.

They already have pieces on the current roster to build off and be competitive.

f*** the Kool-aid is already getting around...

 

[AIexisLafreniereNYR]

Not sure if this is a silly question or not but dont you think Kovalchuk could be the captain since he'll only he here 2-3 years, to prep up Lias or one of the young guys after

 

[Doctyl]

Not sure if this is a silly question or not but dont you think Kovalchuk could be the captain since he'll only he here 2-3 years, to prep up Lias or one of the young guys after

I don’t know. Does anyone know if he’s a quality teammate?

 

[Glennsoe]

If /when we're trading players in the summer I think zucc is nr 3 or 4 to move unless we get an unreal deal .

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I think this is a solid point. People have to realize we aren't going to piss years away. No chance. Sure, there's a great likelihood we will not be a good team in 2018/2019 but to throw it away because of that? No that won't happen. Kovy is a goal scorer (which we lack depth on, let's be fair) and he's a veteran presence for the kids especially the Euro's (Chytil Andersson, Rykov when he comes over) to learn from. I see very little downside here to a 2-3Y deal. It's better than giving 5Y for some NHLer now who is looking for a big time deal in free agency.

Oh please...

RangersTown™ has shown little qualm about pissing any years away. Depending on the age of fans or players, some had their entire careers or earthly lives pissed away between 7th and 8th.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Not sure if this is a silly question or not but dont you think Kovalchuk could be the captain since he'll only he here 2-3 years, to prep up Lias or one of the young guys after

I don't think thats a silly question at all and if anything, is exactly what I would expect if he does end up coming here and they decide to name a captain right away.

 

[RGY]

**** the Kool-aid is already getting around...

It is ridiculous to even act that way. The team was hurt all season, a season that fell apart when Kreider got hurt. Shattenkirk was out the whole year and when he was playing he was hurt. They mix in some talent, create a competitive atmosphere while allowing the youth to develop and filter in appropriately.

Trade Spooner for Picks/Prospects. Cash in now with his value high.

Sign Kovalchuk and Nash to 2-3 year deals.

Sign Pateryn if you can.

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Skjei-Shatty
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Lindgren, Howden, Ronning, Gropp in the AHL.

They can very well compete. That is not drinking any “kool-aid”, that is what can happen. Tanking does not guarantee success. There are plenty of examples to refute that.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I would not rule out re-signing Nash at, say, $3-4 million for a few years. I'm not saying he'd be willing to do it; I'm not saying the organization would consider it. That's just as high as I would comfortably go, given his skill set, his production and--most importantly--his age.

Is he even skating now. WTF is it with you guys?

 

[GAGLine]

Is any single player an answer, in a general sense? Look at McDavid in Edmonton.

Assuming the term and cap are reasonable, I don't see a downside to this. The Rangers add a good player without trading assets for him. It also adds another Russian to the roster, one who has been teammates with 3 of our players/prospects to boot.

I'm not arguing against signing him to a short term deal, just the ridiculous notion that signing him signals that the rebuild is over and we are going to go all in to win next year.