WC: IIHF 2019 -Team Canada

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  1. Bear12Good

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    IIHF 2019 -Team Canada
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    GM Jim Neil


    M.Jones or Murray

    Benn Scheifele Seguin
    Hall McDavid MacKinnon
    Couture Tavares R Smith
    Johansen Couturier Monahan
    Marchessault /Marner/

    Subban-Ellis
    Hamilton-Brodie
    Daughty-Mazzin
    Pietrangelo-Burns


    reserve list :

    Allen,Reimer

    Huberdeau-Kadri- Barzal
    Drouin-Stamkos- Point
    Marchand-Bergeron-Fabbri
    Neal-Getzlaf-Gourde

    Horvat/Reinhart


    Barrie-Rielly
    Ekblad-Matheson
    Spregon- Giordano
    Dumba-Pareyko
     
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    Depends too much on who makes the NHL playoffs.
    That roster sounds nice but not even half of it will be available, for whatever reasons.
     
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    Brenden Morrow - Daniel Brière - Dany Heatley
    Jeff Friesen - Patrice Bergeron - Justin Williams
    Ryan Smyth - Shawn Horcoff - Rob Niedermayer
    Matt Cooke - Brendan Morrison - Glen Murray
    Jean-Pierre Dumont

    Jay Bouwmeester - Scott Niedermayer
    Eric Brewer - Steve Staios
    Nick Schultz - Derek Morris
    Willie Mitchell
     
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  4. Bear12Good

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    Too young roster)
     
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    Where Lombardi?)
     
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    about 80% of the main list will be in the playoffs in the NHL when the games start
     
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    what no Messier, Anderson or Coffey?
     
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    Tournament starts in 10 may.
    All players after 1 SC round will be available. + Many players after 2 round will be available too
     
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    So 8 teams out of 31 not available. And of those players available, about 50% decline the invitations.
    So what's the point in discussing a roster or even lines when we have absolutely no information who could join?
    You have players listed from:
    Bruins, Lightning, Kings, Jets, Sharks, Predators, Islanders, Panthers, Stars, Avalanche, Oilers, Leafs, Ducks, Flames, Wild, Flyers...
    I can guarantee you that those won't all be golfing come May.
     
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    Nice hit, could have used a whole lot more of that this tournament
     
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    I think Canada will be main favorite in Slovakia
     
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    Its impossible to talk about when the 18/19 season hasnt happened. Best time to discuss this is probably during the middle of next season when we have a much clearer picture of whos in, whos out, and who we can possibly select.
     
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    Would love to see another 2015 Prague like powerhouse. That tournament was an absolute joy to watch, I remember cracking open a beer outside, the beautiful weather and just knowing that Canada was going to cream any team it faced from puck drop, Canada was just significantly better than everyone it faced that year. Good times.
     
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    I think Prague-level roster in next year very possible)
     
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    God that was a great team, fun times.

    Can you imagine that team going against this years winner? man, this years gold medal winning swedish side would get ripped to ****ing shreds by that team, they would have been toast by mid way second period.

    Just goes to show how the level of teams/competition varies so much at this tournament.
     
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    As much as Hockey Canada was thrilled with putting an end to the 5 consecutive 1/4 final exit spin we were on, I'm not entirely convinced Hockey Canada wants a Prague Powerhouse type of team at this tournament every year. The fine folks at Hockey Canada very much buy in to the NHL philosophy of parity = profit.

    2015 was just a happy confluence of events, just a 1 off.

    Hockey Canada will do the absolute bare minimum to be competitive at this tournament to be in the medal hunt, and win the occasional GMG.

    after 2 years of a 2nd. and 4th. place finish, perhaps next year Hockey Canada will bring in NHL #1 starting goaltenders and not AHLers or career backups. perhaps....but I'm not holding my breath.
     
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    No question the goaltending was subpar this year, I mean 2 backups, really?

    But I really don't know if this was Hockey Canadas fault or not, they very well may have asked better guys and they refused, you know how it goes for accepting invites to this tournament, Mc and kuemper may very well have been the best they could get this year, what can you do?

    As for the rest of the roster it was not bad at all, on paper at least, they just mostly played like crap. I don't get it, their hustle and one on one battles for the puck all over the ice was just so damn weak it made you want to pull your hair out all tournament long and the defensive pairings and their play was so disjointed and pitiful, it is like they didn't care and forgot how to play hockey all of a sudden outside of Parayko.

    As much as I would like to pin the blame on Hockey Canada management for this years fiasco this ones squarely on the players, TC management are not on the ice and the problem this year was the play on the ice, the roster aside from the goalies was good enough to win, certainly good enough not to go out like they did.


    What a frustrating team this years version was, a total dud of an effort all around.
     
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    yes, all true. but when you have 5 or 6 forwards on that team (and a few of them played well) but on the team ahead of a player like Huberdeau willing and sitting at home next to his phone, but no phone call came...means Hockey Canada wasn't trying very hard.
     
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    Yeah, Huberdeau not getting a call is for sure a head scratcher.

    I don't get it, why wouldn't a guy like brodeur not have interest in him?

    Makes no sense, I assume the guy is gunning for a future g.m role at the n.h.l level....................you would think he would want to ice the best team possible and get victories to prove his acumen for team constructing, you lessen your chances for that when you don't ice the best team possible.

    Quite bizarre.
     
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    Hamilton has been not invited too
     
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    True, but I think a lot of people over look/forget how powerful our 2016 team was too. Naturally it gets over shadowed by that 2015 beast but 2016 was pretty damn strong too. It wasn't as good looking a team on paper but the results on ice were nearly identical. In the playoffs it blew away Sweden 6-0, edged the US 4-3 and then shutout Finland 2-0.

    Just a quick comparison of the final records of both teams.

    2015 : 10 GP, 10 W, 0 OTW, 0 OTL, 0 L, 49 GF, 14 GA, +35 GD, 30 points, gold
    2016 : 10 GP, 9 W, 0 OTW, 0 OTL, 1 L, 46 GF, 11 GA, +35 GD, 27 points, gold

    Offensively speaking the 2016 team was just as potent and powerhouse like, they surrendered fewer goals on route to gold as well.
     
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    The 2015 team actually had 66 goals, not 49.
     
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    The numbers aren't right.

    2015 GF: 66, GA: 15
    2016 GF: 46, GA: 11

    The 2016 team played good hockey but it was a level below the 2015 team. The 2016 team had a convincing loss, needed to comeback to win the semi-final game by one goal and only won the gold medal game by two with one empty net goal. Both teams had good talent level and ended up playing above that level at times.

    I don't think that Hockey Canada doesn't try other than when the money is big. We know that it didn't bother calling Weber early in his big contract when his insurance fees were high and in 2016 it didn't even bother asking Bergeron. I do think that Hockey Canada is not overly good at team construction sometimes. That's really the only explanation for things like Huberdeau in 2018. As for the 2019 team, it's useless to speculate now. We can pencil in O'Reilly and just wait to see who else is going.
     
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    Ahh looks like I counted the group goals only for the 2015 team my mistake. I agree the 2016 team was a step below the 2015 team but that it was still a very dominant team when considering everything. Ya sometimes Hockey Canada seem like its not even trying when assembling these teams, hopefully 2019 we get a good team with quality goaltenders at least.
     

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