GaryPoppins
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OT: If the Jets are sellers, who gets sold?
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Well we have 3 pending UFAs Copp, Stastny and BooBoo. Copp might get a late 1st, Stastny maybe a 2nd or 3rd, and BooBoo maybe a late pick. Any other player getting traded would be a hockey trade, not a TD sell.
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If Jets are out, Copp has maximum value. I would want a prospect back, the Jets do not have great depth, draft pick is a 2-3 year project, in 3 years this team is going to look much different, especially if there is no Helly, Scheif or Wheeler.
Stastny should get a 2nd from a contender at the deadline.
Beaulieu is worth a 6th or 7th for depth.
I would also trade Nate Schmidt to relieve some Cap space, and give room for Heinola to grow into the team.
Stastny should get a 2nd from a contender at the deadline.
Beaulieu is worth a 6th or 7th for depth.
I would also trade Nate Schmidt to relieve some Cap space, and give room for Heinola to grow into the team.
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Not sure if dumping our top pair dman is the way to open the door for a rookie - especially one that plays the right side
Copper gets a 1st and a 5th.
Stastny gets a 2nd.
Boolow gets a 5th or 6th.
I'd try to get a 4th or 5th for Toni.
Stastny gets a 2nd.
Boolow gets a 5th or 6th.
I'd try to get a 4th or 5th for Toni.
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Joe Hallenback
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Lets do some fun what if trades
The Rags want to make run
Copp for Schneider, 2022 1st protected + 2022 4th. The Rags lose in the 1st round that 1st becomes a 2nd in 2022. We get a RH shot D back that could potentially slot in the top 4 and some draft equity
The Coilers want depth
Statsny for Turris(cap dump) + 2022 2nd.
The Rags want to make run
Copp for Schneider, 2022 1st protected + 2022 4th. The Rags lose in the 1st round that 1st becomes a 2nd in 2022. We get a RH shot D back that could potentially slot in the top 4 and some draft equity
The Coilers want depth
Statsny for Turris(cap dump) + 2022 2nd.
I think the only way we have a shot at that trade would be if the Rangers GM has a bit too much to drink on Christmas
By the way, does the NHL have any plans in place for a scenario like that? Say an NHL GM makes a clearly terrible trade while drunk, is there a plan in place for the NHL to veto it?
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Let them keep Turris. Just retain on Stats.
TBH, with the way Stats has played this year he should be worth more than a 2nd from Oil. Make it 2nd + 3rd.
BTW, I bring Stats back again next year for about 2.5 mil.
That seems a little ambitious for Copp, but I like it.
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I think the only way we have a shot at that trade would be if the Rangers GM has a bit too much to drink on Christmas
By the way, does the NHL have any plans in place for a scenario like that? Say an NHL GM makes a clearly terrible trade while drunk, is there a plan in place for the NHL to veto it?
I believe the league has to approve all transactions.Mind you, they allowed Erat for Forsberg, so I think there are no take backs.
I wonder if anyone would bite on Stan. I like him here more than most but if we could move him and bring up Heinola Chisholm etc.
Just about every team in the league but in no way does Stanley represent a TD sell. He would be a highly sought after Young player on a great contract.
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I think the Jets would be just as good with Morrissey-De Melo, Heinola-Pionk, as the current top 4. For me Dillon and De Melo are top 4/5 d-men and #6 can be Stanley, Kovacevic, maybe even Gawanke. But Heinola for me comes in as a #3 d-man, with PP time. The more reps he gets on the PK the more useful he is. Schmidt gets in the way of the PP time, in my thinking, and that salary gives the Jets flexibility to address other areas, especially if Copp and Stastny go off the books (though I hope the latter is re-signed). But I can't speak for the way Chevy or Lowry see the defense.
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I looked at Copp for Schneider on the main boards, and that one was buried quick. The Rangers have a blue chipper in Schneider. I do think that Copp addresses a need within the organization, and he'd get to play with some skilled players over there, boost their 3c position over Chityl. Maybe forms part of a checking line with Goodrow, that could make some noise.
But to get Schneider I think the Jets would have to add. Maybe Copp and Stanley for Schneider. I think Schneider would replace some of the toughness that has been missing since Buff, and I'd have him pegged as 1D, with Morrissey, or maybe that's 2RD, if Schmidt or Heinola paired with Pionk. I can see him fitting into a Lowry team, again. But if you are trading a 3C it's probably not for a top 4 potential d, without adding. That's the message I got.
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White Out 902
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time to blow it up and rebuild.
cant believe im saying that already. what a small and depressing window.
cant believe im saying that already. what a small and depressing window.
jgimp
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No need to blow it all up. A simple on the fly re-tool would suffice with a new face or two and better system.
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I'm usually right.
If the Jets fail this year they absolutely need to be sellers and start a real fast mini rebuild. Scheifele, copp, stas, dillion, wheeler if possible (would retain on that), an RD.
rangers are a good target for a lot of nhl ready prospects and they want to win now. Really want Laf and Schneider here.
rangers are a good target for a lot of nhl ready prospects and they want to win now. Really want Laf and Schneider here.
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This is the only sensible solution. Being sellers at the TD means that at 10 years in, we have made little progress under the current regime. You start with axing Chevy. Stan Bowman is available. And he did resign, it's not like Bettman fired him. He isn't technically blackballed. Bettman just has to approve his return, and I'm sure Chipman has the pull to do it.
He is the perfect hatchet man to come in and clean out our rotten core, led my ScheifMe and Wheezer. Get rid of Helly, too. I'm so tired of listening to his shit.
Run budgie, run. They'll be blowin' it up real good.
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31 GMs would be tripping over themselves to get Stanley. Are you serious?
Lol. Exactly. I get the NHL GMs aren't infallible, but it's a pretty ridiculous fan take that we should trade a guy that 31other GMs are lining up to take. You really think you know better than all of them?
GaryPoppins
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This is the only sensible solution. Being sellers at the TD means that at 10 years in, we have made little progress under the current regime. You start with axing Chevy. Stan Bowman is available. And he did resign, it's not like Bettman fired him. He isn't technically blackballed. Bettman just has to approve his return, and I'm sure Chipman has the pull to do it.
He is the perfect hatchet man to come in and clean out our rotten core, led my ScheifMe and Wheezer. Get rid of Helly, too. I'm so tired of listening to his shit.
Run budgie, run. They'll be blowin' it up real good.
I think this is a little excessive… thought I don’t think they axe KC… I think he gets one more coach. Tbh, I think KC does a pretty good job re drafting, contract negotiations and thought he did really well this off-season. Unfortunately, in retrospect they should have let Maurice leave in the summer. As they say..if you’re not in, your out!
