Dreger: Hyman’s Agent given permission to speak with other teams

[6ix]

I wonder if a team would actually trade for his rights. Either way, Hyman will most likely sign with a new team.

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[hamzarocks]

He gone

 

[boredmale]

Why would a team trade for his rights. It's not like he is the type of guy you want to give 8 years, unless he offers to sign the final 2 years of his deal for 1M dollars each thus driving down the caphit

 

[al secord]

Trade his rights to the Kraken as a sweatener to take Kerfoot?

 

[KingsCourt]

Incoming 5th round pick!

 

[Dog]

He will be a free agent doubt anyone will give something by trade of rights.

 

[UrbanImpact]

It would be dumb for any team to trade for his rights,

it would be dumb for Hyman to sign with a team that traded for his rights before hearing what the other 15ish teams are willing to offer.

 

[Mobiandi]

The Leafs are really going to miss him but I don't think he'll move the needle enough at his incoming caphit on his future team

 

[TheDoldrums]

Trade his rights to the Kraken as a sweatener to take Kerfoot?

The Leafs are already desperate for forwards, they're not going to try and entice Seattle to take Kerfoot. They might even protect him.

 

[The Podium]

Hyman would be a great 4x4 guy. Likely gets more term and dollar on the open market and whoever signs him to that deal will come to regret it.

Hopefully GMs finally smartened up with their UFA offers and he comes back to Dubas hat in hand with a more reasonable (speculative on my part I know) ask.

 

[Jozay]

 

[UrbanImpact]

Would love him in the Canucks top 6 to compliment our skilled stars.

He would have to take a discount to play in Vancouver tho.

Maybe we can offer him longer term, smaller AAV and and sway him with getting to live in Vancouver and growing with a young promising core.

He is 29 years old so that would be a risky strategy.

Ideally it would 4 years - 4.5 mil per.

 

[Captain97]

Why would a team trade for his rights. It's not like he is the type of guy you want to give 8 years, unless he offers to sign the final 2 years of his deal for 1M dollars each thus driving down the caphit

First off both the things you suggested are illegal under the CBA back diving contracts and only the leafs (or Seattle if they pick him) can sign him to 8 years.

Second, it happens like once or twice a year. Some team gives up a 5th rounder or later for UFA rights of a player to try and sign them.

 

[Bobby9]

He wants that retirement contract.

 

[6ix]

It would be dumb for any team to trade for his rights,

it would be dumb for Hyman to sign with a team that traded for his rights before hearing what the other 15ish teams are willing to offer.

I think the benefit is if a team trades for his rights, they’re able to offer him an 8 year deal opposed to 7 year. I don’t know why a team would want to sign him 8 years though, he’s almost 30.

 

[Amadeus]

Will miss him a lot but wish him all the best.

He's a solid player who can play up and down in your lineup. I think he owes Toronto big because, while the onus was on the player to improve year in year out, Toronto put him in the best possible position to succeed. He played with extraordinary linemates and his offensive output was a result of that.

Great player to have on your team who does it all, but not one you overpay for at all.

 

[Mersss]

Where are all the Leafs fan who were saying th guy would sign @ discount cause his folks are rich, and that he'd get 3M$ X 8years??? ROFL

 

[cwede]

It would be dumb for any team to trade for his rights,
it would be dumb for Hyman to sign with a team that traded for his rights before hearing what the other 15ish teams are willing to offer.

sorry to disagree,
but if there is place he wants to be, for opportunity, or teammates, or family, or location, or other reasons
he should do it, lock in his choice, avoid the circus of UFA

folks who say players should always just chase the absolute most $$
don't understand the benefit of having money,

It's that you don't have to make decisions based on money

whether he signs for $20M or $40M will not substantially impact his family's quality of life, his future, or his kids' financial cushion

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I think the benefit is if a team trades for his rights, they’re able to offer him an 8 year deal opposed to 7 year. I don’t know why a team would want to sign him 8 years though, he’s almost 30.

For Hyman to get 8 years as a pending UFA, I believe the Leafs have to sign him first. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. I don't see any amendment to that rule in the MOU.

A true sign & trade has not been done before, to my recollection. Toronto isn't afraid to push the boundaries on normal practice. Not unrealistic that the Leafs could be involved with a first of its kind move.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Where are all the Leafs fan who were saying th guy would sign @ discount cause his folks are rich, and that he'd get 3M$ X 8years??? ROFL

Some of them are still around. There weren't many to begin with.

 

[al secord]

Hyman knows he's the type of player with a short shelf life. Looking for security .

 

[UrbanImpact]

sorry to disagree,
but if there is place he wants to be, for opportunity, or teammates, or family, or location, or other reasons
he should do it, lock in his choice, avoid the circus of UFA

folks who say players should always just chase the absolute most $$
don't understand the benefit of having money,

It's that you don't have to make decisions based on money

whether he signs for $20M or $40M will not substantially impact his family's quality of life, his future, or his kids' financial cushion

what benefit does it do him to sign right now though?

Will the destination choice of his suddenly go away? nop

See all your options before making a decision.

At the very least, it can be a negotiating leverage for Hyman to sign with "destination team" if that destination team is under the pressure of other teams bidding for Hyman.

Art of Negotiation- business 101

 

[The90]

It would be dumb for any team to trade for his rights,

it would be dumb for Hyman to sign with a team that traded for his rights before hearing what the other 15ish teams are willing to offer.

That’s the point of his agent talking to the other teams though. He will know before he was to be traded.

Would love him in the Canucks top 6 to compliment our skilled stars.

He would have to take a discount to play in Vancouver tho.

Maybe we can offer him longer term, smaller AAV and and sway him with getting to live in Vancouver and growing with a young promising core.

He is 29 years old so that would be a risky strategy.

Ideally it would 4 years - 4.5 mil per.

You literally just described his position on the leafs. Complementary top 6 player, on a young team. The leafs core aside from Tavares who’s only 30, are all <30.

I’m sure his preference would be to stay in Toronto for that money / term. He probably wants long term security and as a fan you really can’t blame him for that. He’s been great on the leafs, but it looks like it’s going to be time to move on.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Love the way he plays, but this is gonna end up like David Clarkson

 

[IranCondraAffair]

Interesting move. If Hyman wants a super long deal, hell need to sacrifice dollars in exchange for term.

Im sure the leafs could do some weird 8 year contract that pays him 24M and front load the shit out of it, but i dont expect anyone to give him a contract with 30M no matter the term.

IDK