Value of: Hronek's RFA Rights
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RW? Don’t you mean RHD?
A really solid #2 D-man partner for Morrissey is what Winnipeg needs the most. I’d ship out Ehlers+ to get him, assuming he’d sign here.
A really solid #2 D-man partner for Morrissey is what Winnipeg needs the most. I’d ship out Ehlers+ to get him, assuming he’d sign here.
Contract demands must be nuts if they are looking at keeping Zadarov instead.
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And he used to be 12, so he's getting pretty darn close in the big picture
If only my favorite team, filled with grade A prospects, hadn't ditched a position of weakness to bring in a mobile LHD at the deadline or else I would say Buffalo should be in on this. As it stands, they won't be.
Think we're starting to see why Yzerman was willing to move on from him.
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Zadorov has been a difference maker for the Canucks in the playoffs. Hronek hasn’t.
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I had this and the Domi thread open. I really don't know how I posted it to this one but egg on my face. Hopefully I didn't post anything in that thread that looks way off.
Good right side d-men are the hardest asset to acquire; and Filip Hronek finished 9th in RHD scoring this year.
The only reason the Canucks consider trading him is b/c they're the likely frontrunners to get Chris Tanev & they have a top rhd prospect in Tom Willander. Also, it'd help in balancing the team out/keep more of the team intact.
At minimum, I'd want a 1st (as good or better than the one we gave up), OR good prospect back.
The only reason the Canucks consider trading him is b/c they're the likely frontrunners to get Chris Tanev & they have a top rhd prospect in Tom Willander. Also, it'd help in balancing the team out/keep more of the team intact.
At minimum, I'd want a 1st (as good or better than the one we gave up), OR good prospect back.
How is his defense? Ducks have plenty of LH PMD, but only Gudas on the right side (and he's more of a #4/5).
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The issue would be, whoever trades for him, would have the same exact problem Detroit had, and now Vancouver finds themselves with. He can’t carry a Top 4 pairing. He’s a role player asking for $7+ million over 7-8 years.
He’s proven to be a great supporting player, under the right conditions, but if you’re going over $6 million per, a dman has to be able to carry a pairing.
Detroit found a team who either didn’t know it yet, or thought they could fix him. There probably won’t be a 3rd team willing to bite again.
So because there’s now a money issue, who’s gonna give up any value to the Canucks in a trade, knowing they’ll have to pony up? Good luck finding any interest. Not with that contract demand.
Something’s gonna have to give in Vancouver, to get a deal done. They can’t give him what he’s asking for, but because of that same ask, he’s not worth anything in a trade. That number comes down, they’ll find some interest, but then why trade him if the number comes down?
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I think this is a bit hyperbolic. Absolute worst case scenario he’s a 1 year rental for some team at a $6-7M arbitration award. That’s worth something in a trade even if it’s not what Vancouver paid. More realistic, Hronek’s demands from earlier in the season come down , he signs a more reasonable contract, and avoids being the next John Klingberg.
The issue with Hronek and Vancouver isn’t necessarily whether he’s worth his ask(that will sort itself out one way or the other) but whether he’s worth keeping over players like Zadorov, Lindholm and Joshua who have had much better playoff showings.
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Hertl wasn't overpaid, he was tricked into believing the Sharks would turn it around
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The thing is, who’s gonna give anything up in a trade, even for that one year, for what he offers, vs the dollars spent? Teams will just go sign a Gostisbehere for $4 million.
For example, teams are gonna be all over Shea Theodore, even if it’s just for next year, because he can carry anyone’s second pairing 20 minutes a night. Hronek doesn’t offer that. So when your talking dollars vs what the player offers a team, teams just can’t justify giving up anything for him because of the price tag. They’d have to be pretty desperate.
At best, the market would be very thin, and when that happens, players just aren’t worth very much to other teams via trade. They know why you’re moving him.
I think reality is gonna finally set in with Hronek and his agent, and he’ll end up signing a much more reasonable contract. At least you’d hope.
It’s gonna be one of the most interesting contracts to watch unfold. I just hope the Canucks don’t give in. I think it would be a major mistake they’d have to live with for years.
He isn't a top pair RD. He's a good compliment to Hughes. Good to see Canucks fans are seeing that. All it took was needing to put their hypothetical money where their mouth is.
Wings fans told them it would just take time.
He's a decent 2nd pair offensive defenseman. He's probably appreciated in value but with less team control. The Canucks can get their 1st back.
Wings fans told them it would just take time.
He's a decent 2nd pair offensive defenseman. He's probably appreciated in value but with less team control. The Canucks can get their 1st back.
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