Value of: Hronek upcoming RFA

[LemonSauceD]

Reportedly rejected a $6.5M offer. Probably looking somewhere for around Hughes’s money but management isn’t gonna give him that.

26 y/o RFA, 50 point RHD defenseman, puck mover, eats a ton of minutes, all situations, plays with an edge. Curious what he’d fetch?

probably gets a deal done around $7M-7.5M.

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[Ledge And Dairy]

Vancouver finally got a 2nd defenseman and want to ship him out because he's earned a raise? Seems nearsighted. I think he should get roughly the same as what Hanifin gets and Vancouver should just find a way to make it work.

 

[DrDangles]

Why bother moving him?

Van has so much money coming off the books this summer, I'm sure they get a deal done around 7x8.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Nucks have over 20 mill in space and Hronek is the main piece. The rest are secondary, or not important where they would get a raise.

Nucks should be able to keep him

 

[nbwingsfan]

No idea why they wouldn’t pay up for him after they finally found a good pairing for Hughes.

 

[Fatass]

Not too sure what Hronek gets signed for. But if it’s 7 to 7.5 x 8 years it will get done by Vancouver. Can’t see them trading such an important D man.

 

[Bobby9]

No rush to sign him. Watch how he plays in the playoffs.

Don't have time for regular season players anymore. If they can't perform when it matters then why have them on the roster?

 

[LemonSauceD]

Seravalli reporting Hronek’s camp despite the Hanifin signing is looking for near $8M and that there are definitely teams that will pay him that contract or close to it if not Vancouver.

Canucks aren’t gonna pay him more than Hughes.

So yes, very much a player who might be shopped after the playoffs. They didn’t budge on Horvat, find it highly unlikely they budge for Hronek.

 

[Czechboy]

Using Hughes contract is cherry picking. That was signed in 2021. This one will be signed in 2024.

It'd be like me saying Pasta shouldn't make more than Draisaitl because Drai is making 8.5

It'd be better to look at signings of D men in 2024 for comparables. Eg. if Hughes signed today and was UFA - he's getting a lot more than 7.85. He's probably getting 10 or more today.

Having said that.. no idea what I'd pay Hronek.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Hanifin just signed & is probably a better player. Or at best same caliber.

Wouldnt give him more than that.

 

[canadianmagpie]

Hanifin just signed & is probably a better player. Or at best same caliber.

Wouldnt give him more than that.

Hanifin also gets the UFA bonus. Hronek being a RFA should mean a little bit under that. I'd say a long-term deal around the $7 million mark.

 

[Xirik]

tough spot but everyone has been wanting a good player to pair with Hughes for years and it seems like it would be extremely hard to throw that away and begin the merry go round of defenseman to pair with Hughes all over again.

The options are get Tanev and kick the problem down the road for probably 3 years or pay Hronek

 

[Petey O]

Using Hughes contract is cherry picking. That was signed in 2021. This one will be signed in 2024.

It'd be like me saying Pasta shouldn't make more than Draisaitl because Drai is making 8.5

It'd be better to look at signings of D men in 2024 for comparables. Eg. if Hughes signed today and was UFA - he's getting a lot more than 7.85. He's probably getting 10 or more today.

Having said that.. no idea what I'd pay Hronek.

Lol Hughes would get 14 mil AAV as a UFA.

 

[Czechboy]

Lol Hughes would get 14 mil AAV as a UFA.

Which proves my point more... Comparing old contracts to new contracts doesn't work. If he's 14 then Hronek is 8.

 

[Go Wings]

No rush to sign him. Watch how he plays in the playoffs.

Don't have time for regular season players anymore. If they can't perform when it matters then why have them on the roster?

Wtf are you talking about, this is the 2nd time the Canucks have made the playoffs in the last 9 years and you don't have time for regular season players?

 

[Bobby9]

Wtf are you talking about, this is the 2nd time the Canucks have made the playoffs in the last 9 years and you don't have time for regular season players?

Correct.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

2 goals and 17 assists in his last 50 games. He absolutely fell off a cliff in the second half of the season.

 

[Petes2424]

It’s going to be the scariest contract in the league. He’s still not proven he can carry a Top 4 pairing, and that’s scary when you start talking anything over $6 million.. That’s what your top role players top out around. Then the term?

It’s literally why Detroit traded him. For example, he will never play a game like Simon Edvinsson played tonight in Toronto.. Carrying a Top 4 pairing against Top NHL players, like he did. A rookie dman. That’s just the truth of it. We see it every time Tocchet tries to get him going, away from Hughes. His play diminishes a lot. If he hasn’t done it by now at 26, it’s probably not coming. He gets pushed around way too much, and makes a lot of bad decisions, when it’s his responsibility to carry play.

I used to think he had a chance to. Not any more.

He’s a great sidekick for Quinn but they have a lot of money tied up in Star players. They’re going to be stuck with Hronek’s contract for 7-8 years. So they better be very, very sure, and I don’t think they are.

It might be the perfect time to trade him to some team, who thinks they can get him to do it. He’s yet to in both Detroit and Vancouver, and giving him $7+ for 7-8 years? They’ve got a big decision to make. One thing’s for sure. I’d wait until after the playoffs. That’s a given. Still wouldn’t go over $6.5 for 5 years.

I think back to the game they blew SJ out, back in December I think it was. Listening to the Sharks announcers talk about Hronek. They joked about it. Saying he had the easiest job in the NHL right now. Being Quinn’s partner. Just don’t do anything stupid.

There’s lots of role players in the league who can do that for much cheaper than $7 million over 7 years. But hey, it’s their cap space.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

I think he gets moved. We're not giving him $8 million because he's not worth that, and it seems to be non-negotiable for him.

Try to recoup a young player in the 22-25 year old range, preferably a defenceman.

 

[Raistlin]

It’s going to be the scariest contract in the league. He’s still not proven he can carry a Top 4 pairing, and that’s scary when you start talking anything over $6 million.. That’s what your top role players top out around. Then the term?

It’s literally why Detroit traded him. For example, he will never play a game like Simon Edvinsson played tonight in Toronto.. Carrying a Top 4 pairing against Top NHL players, like he did. A rookie dman. That’s just the truth of it. We see it every time Tocchet tries to get him going, away from Hughes. His play diminishes a lot. If he hasn’t done it by now at 26, it’s probably not coming. He gets pushed around way too much, and makes a lot of bad decisions, when it’s his responsibility to carry play.

I used to think he had a chance to. Not any more.

He’s a great sidekick for Quinn but they have a lot of money tied up in Star players. They’re going to be stuck with Hronek’s contract for 7-8 years. So they better be very, very sure, and I don’t think they are.

It might be the perfect time to trade him to some team, who thinks they can get him to do it. He’s yet to in both Detroit and Vancouver, and giving him $7+ for 7-8 years? They’ve got a big decision to make. One thing’s for sure. I’d wait until after the playoffs. That’s a given. Still wouldn’t go over $6.5 for 5 years.

I think back to the game they blew SJ out, back in December I think it was. Listening to the Sharks announcers talk about Hronek. They joked about it. Saying he had the easiest job in the NHL right now. Being Quinn’s partner. Just don’t do anything stupid.

There’s lots of role players in the league who can do that for much cheaper than $7 million over 7 years. But hey, it’s their cap space.

That's a horrible take. He's been our top 3 defender all year, statistically he fell off as the year went on, but he was reliable as they come and plays Tocchets system to a tee. If he gets paid 7+ that will be a deal for a top 3 Dman. If it's more, then it won't be favorable, but still important to keep him here. There is no one like that on the right side available, that's the reality. Hanifin's deal plus a bit more should be enough to seal it.

Hey, Hronek maybe grateful to this org, after 7 years he will finally taste playoffs, that's got to be one of the longer droughts out there.

 

[82Ninety42011]

He's in a great situation and Canucks have a great duo with him and Hughes. However he's also not nearly as good without Hughes. I hope he realizes this and both can come to an agreement around 7-7.5 per for 7-8 years. If he decides that isn't t enough then that's a contract he'd have to look for elsewhere. He's not getting 8 in Vancouver if that's his goal.

 

[Warh1ppy]

Fundamental issue is first 40 games with Hughes Hronek looked like a true 1b defenseman.

Last 40 games, partially away from Hughes he's looked like a solid 3-4 RHD every team would want.

If he's a passenger he's not getting paid to drive.

 

[Forge]

 

[Jared Dunn]

He's probably pushing for $8.5 right now with the team pushing for 7. Ultimately they will meet in the middle $7.5-7.75. He'll get a righty premium but hard to argue he should be worth significantly more than Toews and Hanifin

 

[thefutures]

Good luck to anyone paying him 8+. Even 7 is generous for Hronek