How many points would a peak "Big 3" score in todays NHL?

[Varan]

Drai is scoring at an obscene pace as was Kucherov last season and it is drawing him comparisons to Malkin back in 2012. Connor McDavid is viewed by some as better than both Crosby AND OV at their peaks. Lots of scorers are scoring close to or at 100 points now.

But then there is the argument that those 3 played in a much lower scoring era compared to these newcomers, so it begs the question of how many points would a peak version of them tally?

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[blundluntman]

130 to 140 sounds about right to me.

 

[SotasicA]

I thought this was about Wayne, Mario and Bobby Orr..m

 

[filinski77]

For Ovechkin's 3 year peak:

GP	G	P	G/GP	P/GP	G-82	P-82	NHL Avg. Goals	19/20 avg	Difference	Adjusted G - 82	Adjusted P - 82
82	65	112	0.79	1.37	65	112	2.78	3.03	9.0%	71	122
79	56	110	0.71	1.39	58	114	2.91	3.03	4.1%	61	119
72	50	109	0.69	1.51	57	124	2.84	3.03	6.7%	61	132

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Malkin's 2011/2012:

GP	G	P	G/GP	P/GP	G-82	P-82	NHL Avg. Goals	19/20 avg	Difference	Adjusted G - 82	Adjusted P - 82
75	50	109	0.67	1.45	55	119	2.73	3.03	11.0%	61	132

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Crosby's 2006/2007 and 2013/2014 (left out the half sized seasons due to sample size):

GP	G	P	G/GP	P/GP	G-82	P-82	NHL Avg. Goals	19/20 avg	Difference	Adjusted G - 82	Adjusted P - 82
79	36	120	0.46	1.52	37	125	2.95	3.03	2.7%	38	128
80	36	104	0.45	1.30	37	107	2.74	3.03	10.6%	41	118

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We all know era adjusting isn't perfect, but the scoring environment is certainly up the last couple years, and regardless of PP opportunities etc (that some people would use as an excuse), the top players would still produce similarly based upon the average scoring.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

OV: 70 goals + 65 assists = 135pts

Malkin: 60 goals + 80 assists = 140pts

Crosby: 50 goals + 90 assists = 140pts

 

[Brucelenok]

Drai is scoring at an obscene pace as was Kucherov last season and it is drawing him comparisons to Malkin back in 2012. Connor McDavid is viewed by some as better than both Crosby AND OV at their peaks. Lots of scorers are scoring close to or at 100 points now.

But then there is the argument that those 3 played in a much lower scoring era compared to these newcomers, so it begs the question of how many points would a peak version of them tally?

Fully healthy in 82 games, all 3 would be 130+ point players routinely during their primes, possibly pushing it above 140+ at absolute best IMO. Scoring is up last few seasons, goaltending equipment is smaller and NHL has become much softer League in general - less hits, less fights etc.

Ovi: 65- 70 goals, 65-70 assists
Crosby: Mid 50s in goals, mid 80s in assists
Malkin: Similarly to Crosby

 

[nowhereman]

They would destroy this league. Peak Crosby/Malkin would flirt with 140 points and peak OV would be challenging for 70 goals.

 

[daver]

Kucherov, Drai and McDavid wouldn't have survived the DPE Redux; a time when men were men and women knew their places.

 

[Stealth JD]

Drai is scoring at an obscene pace as was Kucherov last season and it is drawing him comparisons to Malkin back in 2012. Connor McDavid is viewed by some as better than both Crosby AND OV at their peaks. Lots of scorers are scoring close to or at 100 points now.

But then there is the argument that those 3 played in a much lower scoring era compared to these newcomers, so it begs the question of how many points would a peak version of them tally?

is this about Malkin, Ovechkin & Crosby? what a poorly phrased poll...

 

[Regal]

In the 120-140 range, depending on various factors. I don't think Draisaitl or Kucherov are/were playing as well as any of the 3 at their best, but I think both of them have put up totals better than their play as well, with dynamite PPs and more secondary assists than usual, so I don't think the big 3 necessarily score a certain amount more than them just because they were better. Ovechkin was better in '08 than '10 imo, but '10 he was pacing for higher point totals because the team was an offensive juggernaut which led to a few more assists. Crosby was better in '10 than '07 imo as well, but a great PP helped him get a better point total.

 

[Varan]

Kucherov, Drai and McDavid wouldn't have survived the DPE Redux; a time when men were men and women knew their places.

I don’t know if this is sarcastic but go ahead

 

[Varan]

In the 120-140 range, depending on various factors. I don't think Draisaitl or Kucherov are/were playing as well as any of the 3 at their best, but I think both of them have put up totals better than their play as well, with dynamite PPs and more secondary assists than usual, so I don't think the big 3 necessarily score a certain amount more than them just because they were better. Ovechkin was better in '08 than '10 imo, but '10 he was pacing for higher point totals because the team was an offensive juggernaut which led to a few more assists. Crosby was better in '10 than '07 imo as well, but a great PP helped him get a better point total.

Don’t you think the 3 can’t put up totals better than their play as well?

 

[KlefDown]

Kucherov, Drai and McDavid wouldn't have survived the DPE Redux; a time when men were men and women knew their places.

ok boomer

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Kucherov, Drai and McDavid wouldn't have survived the DPE Redux; a time when men were men and women knew their places.

Watch out, everyone! The town badass is here.

 

[Vijo Morganstein]

Weird to see mid 2000s nostalgia instead of the usual 90s nostalgia on these boards

 

[Regal]

Don’t you think the 3 can’t put up totals better than their play as well?

Yes, that's why I talked about Crosby and Ovechkin's seasons being different in terms of points and quality of play. The problem is that those extra points are more about variance and the situations they find themselves in, which is out of the player's control. If those things happen in a year they're also playing their best, then their point totals would likely be on the higher end of the spectrum. If everything went right for all of them, they could hit 140 imo. If they're in unfavourable situations, they'd probably be closer to 120. In normal circumstances, somewhere in between.

 

[daver]

Drai is scoring at an obscene pace as was Kucherov last season and it is drawing him comparisons to Malkin back in 2012. Connor McDavid is viewed by some as better than both Crosby AND OV at their peaks. Lots of scorers are scoring close to or at 100 points now.

But then there is the argument that those 3 played in a much lower scoring era compared to these newcomers, so it begs the question of how many points would a peak version of them tally?

There really is no argument to be made to back this up.

 

[Tage2Tuch]

There really is no argument to be made to back this up.

he’s not saying it’s true he’s saying some “VIEW” him to be. You probably know that already but it’s not like he’s saying it.

 

[nowhereman]

Drai is scoring at an obscene pace as was Kucherov last season and it is drawing him comparisons to Malkin back in 2012. Connor McDavid is viewed by some as better than both Crosby AND OV at their peaks. Lots of scorers are scoring close to or at 100 points now.

But then there is the argument that those 3 played in a much lower scoring era compared to these newcomers, so it begs the question of how many points would a peak version of them tally?

They'd be wrong. At his best, Crosby was practically the perfect hockey player and OV was scoring 65 goals while physically destroying opponents.

 

[Varan]

There really is no argument to be made to back this up.

I'm not making the argument but people definitely think so. Check this out daver
Is McDavid better than Ovechkin or Crosby ever were?

 

[Varan]

They'd be wrong. At his best, Crosby was practically the perfect hockey player and OV was scoring 65 goals while physically destroying opponents.

agree

 

[Mackinnonen]

OV: 70 goals + 65 assists = 135pts

Malkin: 60 goals + 80 assists = 140pts

Crosby: 50 goals + 90 assists = 140pts

Pretty much in a season with no injuries

 

[Paul4587]

You seem to be missing an option...

 

[North Cole]

About the same, maybe ever so slightly more. I feel old with some of the replies in this thread. People acting like their era is dead long live the new era.

People talking about 140+ like we're back in the 80's...70+ goals? Haha Ground control to major Tom...

Kucherov, Drai and McDavid wouldn't have survived the DPE Redux; a time when men were men and women knew their places.

Wtf is a DPE redux? Crovkin didn't play in anything resembling the DPE. Sounds like you might have finally gone off the deep end here friendo, McDavid and Drai giving you insomnia or something?

 

[North Cole]

Weird to see mid 2000s nostalgia instead of the usual 90s nostalgia on these boards

Full circle. Era's are accelerating, at this rate we'll be in a new era by 2028, asking how would the peak McDavid of five years ago do today...