John Eichel da GOAT
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Proposal: How can Ott get their 2019 1st back?
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tony d
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Why the Senators didn't get a guaranteed 1st from San Jose is beyond me. I think they want a 1st they'll have to give up 1 of Duchene or Stone.
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TheBloodyNine
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Nothing short of overpayment. Talking best players, prospects and probably a 1st from a later season. Colorado playing with house money with that pick so I doubt they let it go.
Cardiac Jerks
Asinine & immoral
Tkachuky
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tsujimoto74
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Because Buffalo already had dibs on the Sharks 2019 1st if they made the playoffs (as a condition of the Kane trade). Both teams are getting a 1st from SJS---it's just a question of who's getting '19 and who's getting '20.
CrypTic
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This. They already screwed it up. Why make it even worse by overpaying Colorado for the pick?
Cotton
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Best bet is to focus on Lafreniere for the following draft.
That's who I'd want if I was the Sens.
That's who I'd want if I was the Sens.
ManofSteel55
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They can't. The best they can do is trade Duchene and Stone and hope to get 1sts for each of them.
ChaoticOrange
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No chance. Sakic is laughing like a giant golden Homer right now.
MAYBE Tkachuk and Chabot would convince the Avs to take pity, but if I’m Sakic I’m tucking that pick away for safekeeping and not even considering trade offers.
MAYBE Tkachuk and Chabot would convince the Avs to take pity, but if I’m Sakic I’m tucking that pick away for safekeeping and not even considering trade offers.
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Can't see that.
A team without Karlsson, Stone, Hoffman, Brassard is beyond garbage and will finish at the bottom, which raises the value for Ottawa by a mile.
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Colorado would be dumb to trade it tbh, at least for anything that Sens have to offer.
Having Makinnon- Hughes potentially down the middle going forward would be huge.... and their pick should be low enough that they can get another D prospect to add to the bunch. Colorado is in a very good spot going forward I think.
Any trade ott makes to get pick, just makes that pick gain even more value.
Having Makinnon- Hughes potentially down the middle going forward would be huge.... and their pick should be low enough that they can get another D prospect to add to the bunch. Colorado is in a very good spot going forward I think.
Any trade ott makes to get pick, just makes that pick gain even more value.
seroes
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Given the value that ottawa has gotten in return for their players so far I would think there is no way they get the pick back. Their best hope is to try to get an unprotected pick from another team in exchange for stone or Duchene. They should probably target a bubble team like Dallas, New Jersey, Florida, etc....no offense to those teams, but I just don't see them as locks for the playoffs. Target one and pray to the lottery gods.
La Cosa Nostra
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Even if Ottawa does finish dead last all that does is guarantee the 4th overall pick. And while Ottawa is bad I can see the 1st being in the 4-6 range after the lotto. Just like this past season when they also finished nearly in last place and only got the #4 pick. Dont get me wrong the Avs are in possession of a guaranteed top 10 pick but some of the proposals are ridiculous. Tkachuk and Chabot for their first back? Unless its Hughes that's horrific for Ottawa.
Ararana
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All Dorion had to do was not draft Brady Tkachuk. If the Avs end up with a top 5 pick next year that going end up being quite a mistake.
Pretty sure Sakic snuck in a "no backsies" just before Dorion hung up. Sorry man. Can't do anything about it when that happens.
Jumptheshark
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it could be a top 3 pick--so it would take a miracle
they may have gotten it for Karlsson
They can't tank. It's that straightforward, even if it falls outside the assumed scenario. The only way they get their pick back is to de-escalate its value by going all-in on this year to insure its not a lottery pick.
As long as it represents any lottery chance of drafting Hughes, Colorado's not giving it up.
Did you think about that? If they escalate their performance, the pick has less value and they don't need it back with the same desperation they do if it's the lottery winner. What would be crazy is if they play their asses off, finish in like the 10 spot, and then that selection wins the lottery. That's when you just fold up the franchise and do something else.
