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Alpha Couturier
Just branching off from a discussion on the Luke Schenn thread.
We do trade a lot of our prospects and picks, but that's to continue on with having a damn good operating roster - we do and always do. Whenever we've needed to get players we've got them. We went and got Timonen and Hartnell. We got Pronger. We almost got Weber, Suter or Parise. Cap space is always tight but it's the same for every team in the league who genuinely want to win. Are there any teams in the league who have a strong roster and a strong prospect pool who haven't spent time at the bottom of the league? Is it even possible to keep a great team and a strong prospect pool whilst always being a top team?
Leighton had earned his contract. Sure, he'd had help off the defence but his stat line was fine. It didn't work out but then he offered a similar risk to Matt Read and look how that's going...
One thing i've always said about Holmgren is that he's damned immediately after every decision and people don't take into account that a lot of them work out. Timonen's contract was panned, worked out. Briere's contract was ridiculed, worked out alright. Dropping Gagne, good move. Trading Richards was criticised, that's looking damn fine. Trading Carter was hated, good trade. Even Bryzgalov's contract doesn't look as bad now as it did in June.
Bottom line is that he always keeps us as a top 5 team in the East (even this year will prove to be so) with zero transition years. He's even coped with the permanent loss of one of the best defensemen in the world and one of the most prolonged injury curses in the league.
He's made mistakes but who hasn't? At least he repeatedly makes up for them and never ever guts the Flyers roster.
Trading away all your prospects and draft picks until you're in a situation where you don't have any players to call up, or the cap space to fill holes via FA, is more than an "odd mistake." Signing Leighton to be the starter instead of getting basically anybody else, and the ensuing nuclear fallout, is more than the "odd mistake." As I've said, he's done a pretty good (generally) job fixing those mistakes; if you're going to take the risks Homer does, that's an essential skill. The team is screwed if he continues to play with fire and someday can't put it out. I don't see how that's a "can't-win" scenario for Holmgren; that's an appraisal I think is very realistic, IMO.
That's all I've got for the subject, I don't want to derail the thread any further.
We do trade a lot of our prospects and picks, but that's to continue on with having a damn good operating roster - we do and always do. Whenever we've needed to get players we've got them. We went and got Timonen and Hartnell. We got Pronger. We almost got Weber, Suter or Parise. Cap space is always tight but it's the same for every team in the league who genuinely want to win. Are there any teams in the league who have a strong roster and a strong prospect pool who haven't spent time at the bottom of the league? Is it even possible to keep a great team and a strong prospect pool whilst always being a top team?
Leighton had earned his contract. Sure, he'd had help off the defence but his stat line was fine. It didn't work out but then he offered a similar risk to Matt Read and look how that's going...
One thing i've always said about Holmgren is that he's damned immediately after every decision and people don't take into account that a lot of them work out. Timonen's contract was panned, worked out. Briere's contract was ridiculed, worked out alright. Dropping Gagne, good move. Trading Richards was criticised, that's looking damn fine. Trading Carter was hated, good trade. Even Bryzgalov's contract doesn't look as bad now as it did in June.
Bottom line is that he always keeps us as a top 5 team in the East (even this year will prove to be so) with zero transition years. He's even coped with the permanent loss of one of the best defensemen in the world and one of the most prolonged injury curses in the league.
He's made mistakes but who hasn't? At least he repeatedly makes up for them and never ever guts the Flyers roster.