Value of: Holtby to Carolina

[Halla]

With Grubauer taking over the starters job, and uber prospect Samsonov ready for NHL duty, does a deal between Washington and Carolina make sense?

Carolina needs a bona fide #1. Darling isn't that guy. Washington isn't gonna just give away Holtby, but another down year would kill his value

thoughts?

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[hockeykicker]

Putting holtby on a metro team probably costs even more

 

[bluedevil58]

Putting holtby on a metro team probably costs even more

Worth the cost. Canes just need average goal trending to be a playoff team. For Holtby, I could see something like a 1st, and either a Hanifin/Faulk or a forward of they needed wing help instead. The pay would be substantial. As a Canes fan, if it meant the playoffs even if the guy is a nut job come playoff time, it would be worth the price.

 

[Advanced stats]

Worth the cost. Canes just need average goal trending to be a playoff team. For Holtby, I could see something like a 1st, and either a Hanifin/Faulk or a forward of they needed wing help instead. The pay would be substantial. As a Canes fan, if it meant the playoffs even if the guy is a nut job come playoff time, it would be worth the price.

Agreed.
It wouldn't be foolish for Carolina to explore trading for Price and Holtby.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Worth the cost. Canes just need average goal trending to be a playoff team. For Holtby, I could see something like a 1st, and either a Hanifin/Faulk or a forward of they needed wing help instead. The pay would be substantial. As a Canes fan, if it meant the playoffs even if the guy is a nut job come playoff time, it would be worth the price.

[MOD] I love Holtby, he's the good version of Ward, but a 1st + Hanifin is ridiculous.

 

[Fatty McLardy]

lol at 1st + hanifin for holtby

 

[Stephen]

[MOD] I love Holtby, he's the good version of Ward, but a 1st + Hanifin is ridiculous.

The guy won a Vezina two years ago.

 

[bluedevil58]

[MOD] I love Holtby, he's the good version of Ward, but a 1st + Hanifin is ridiculous.

Pay is substantial due to trading within division. He isn't going to come cheap.

 

[Legend123]

That canes fan said a first + hanifin for Holtby?? heres a Price instead!!

 

[Chan790]

The guy won a Vezina two years ago.

Right. We know.

Goalies, even elite ones, don't have Hanifin + #12OA value. That's ridiculous.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

[MOD]. I love Holtby, he's the good version of Ward, but a 1st + Hanifin is ridiculous.

The fact that trading Holtby to the Canes could gift you a playoff spot is enough for the deal to fall through. Obviously the price is super high, we're competing for the same playoff spot...

 

[Chan790]

Pay is substantial due to trading within division. He isn't going to come cheap.

That is why Holtby (or Gru) shouldn't even be considered options.

 

[staalgood]

A 1st + Hanifin/ Faulk will not happen. The Canes need goaltending, but not that steep. A 1st and a prospect, but I'd much rather have Grubauer.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

I maintain my position that Carolina should have traded for Fleury. Canes didn’t want to do the Pens a “favor” by letting us keep Murray, but lost out on a great goalie that wouldn’t have been expensive to trade for

 

[bluedevil58]

I maintain my position that Carolina should have traded for Fleury. Canes didn’t want to do the Pens a “favor” by letting us keep Murray, but lost out on a great goalie that wouldn’t have been expensive to trade for

Agreed. Our glorious GMRF dropped the ball. Now we have Scott Darling and the pleasure of reading Sarah Darling's tweets.

 

[The S5]

A $6M goalie who just lost his starting job isn't worth all that much.
Washington takes what they can get and off loads the cap hit.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I maintain my position that Carolina should have traded for Fleury. Canes didn’t want to do the Pens a “favor” by letting us keep Murray, but lost out on a great goalie that wouldn’t have been expensive to trade for

Ya, I’m sure that’s exactly how it went down and Fleury’s NTC had nothing at all to do with it.

 

[hb12xchamps]

1st and Hanifin sounds great. I'll go help pack Holtby's house up and coordinate with the moving company

 

[DaveG]

A $6M goalie who just lost his starting job isn't worth all that much.
Washington takes what they can get and off loads the cap hit.

Bingo. Worst case for the Canes if they're going for Holtby is they use a team from out west as an intermediary and maybe pay them something marginal to do so. I've honestly been wondering something around Haydn Fleury + 2nd in that regard.

 

[CheMxDawG]

Bingo. Worst case for the Canes if they're going for Holtby is they use a team from out west as an intermediary and maybe pay them something marginal to do so. I've honestly been wondering something around Haydn Fleury + 2nd in that regard.

Three team trades, so hot right now

This is the most realistic way we'd make a deal

 

[TGWL]

The guy won a Vezina two years ago.

The trade isn't happening 2 years ago is it? He's going to be 29 by next season and currently listed as a backup for the playoffs. It'll take a bit to get him on another team in the metro, but the Canes aren't helping them get rid of a goalie by massively overpaying.

 

[GoldiFox]

Can do a Build-A-Holtby Canes Workshop:

Pick One: #11 OA, Justin Faulk, Haydn Fluery, Jake Bean, Jeff Skinner (50% retained)
Pick One: Janne Kuokkanen, Aleksi Saarela, Julien Gauthier, Nic Roy, Lucas Wallmark, 2018 2nd

Mix and match to your heart's content.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

The trade isn't happening 2 years ago is it? He's going to be 29 by next season and currently listed as a backup for the playoffs. It'll take a bit to get him on another team in the metro, but the Canes aren't helping them get rid of a goalie by massively overpaying.

You can't just ignore the previous 5 seasons

 

[filinski77]

Can do a Build-A-Holtby Canes Workshop:

Pick One: #11 OA, Justin Faulk, Haydn Fluery, Jake Bean, Jeff Skinner (50% retained)
Pick One: Janne Kuokkanen, Aleksi Saarela, Julien Gauthier, Nic Roy, Lucas Wallmark, 2018 2nd

Mix and match to your heart's content.

I would absolutely love for the caps to get Skinner and Wallmark for Holtby, don't know if Holts is enough for those 2 however

 

[TGWL]

You can't just ignore the previous 5 seasons

Nobody is ignoring it. But he fell apart in the playoffs last year and hasn't been very good this year. If you're trading a goalie when he's struggling, your not expecting back a vezina status return. The return will still be good but including Hanifin and a first seems a bit much, no?