Classicnamesup
MVP Backhand Slapper
If not drafting a dman higher than a 4/5 makes it a bad draft, Holland has a whole lot he can tell you about bad drafting
Well, hang on a second. Now I'm confused. I thought good moves don't count because any GM could do them, but bad moves do count because they're mistakes? Weird. It's like the standards are shifting around here or something based on who you're talking about.
When you go back to your point that the Filppula deal was a bad one from Yzerman, you can't just ignore the fact Holland offered an even bigger contract to the same player in the same offseason.
janmark is better than glendening and sheahan.
järnkrok is better than glendening. and maybe sheahan, though sheahan was ahead at the time. nyquist turns 27 in september. he is what he is. tatar will probably be better than this season but i guess what we saw in 14-15 is about as good as it gets.
Better at what? Not better as a bottom 6 center. Janmark's FO% is god awful, while Glendenning shuts down top forwards and is our best FO guy. And I don't see him being a better point producer than Sheahan.
So again I ask... better at what?
Better at what? Not better as a bottom 6 center. Janmark's FO% is god awful, while Glendenning shuts down top forwards and is our best FO guy. And I don't see him being a better point producer than Sheahan.
I'm sure being on the team that scored the most goals in the league didn't help Janmark's production at all.Ev strength pts
Zetterberg- 28
Janmark- 27
Ev strength goals
Tatar- 14
Janmark- 14
In just his first season. Have to see how his 2nd season goes, but kid looks really good.
I'm sure being on the team that scored the most goals in the league didn't help Janmark's production at all.
It boggles my mind that people want Janmark and Jarnkrok on this team. More adds to the Swedish Mafia? More small, soft players?
We are building a forward group with size, speed and grit. We may have room for one of Tatar/Nyquist/Pulkkinen but certainly not all three and certainly not Jarnkrok/Janmark in addition.
I'm sure being on the team that scored the most goals in the league didn't help Janmark's production at all.
It boggles my mind that people want Janmark and Jarnkrok on this team. More adds to the Swedish Mafia? More small, soft players?
We are building a forward group with size, speed and grit. We may have room for one of Tatar/Nyquist/Pulkkinen but certainly not all three and certainly not Jarnkrok/Janmark in addition.
So again, the general sentiment on this board is young players not on the Red Wings roster regularly are great players that should be leading us to Stanley Cups and Holland is an idiot for not keeping them or playing them...
But you don't get any worthwile long-term deals done by trading Jarnkroks, Backmans and Janmarks. At absolute most those kind of prospects are throw-ins to much larger pieces being moved.i'm not opposed to trading those guys. or wouldn't have. if it were for long-term needs.
not for rentals just to make the playoffs and lose in the first round, to cover mistakes made in the summer and/or over guys who were available in summer for relatively reasonable prices.
But you don't get any worthwile long-term deals done by trading Jarnkroks, Backmans and Janmarks. At absolute most those kind of prospects are throw-ins to much larger pieces being moved.
I'd also say that Cole was one of the better trade deadline pick-ups Holland has made in a long time and I don't like using hindsight to criticize what is good moves at the time. Basically any rental is absolutely useless if you don't win the cup, that doesn't mean you should never try.
Of course, you should try - if you're in the conversation for contending for a Cup. As in, your minimum expectation is to make the 3rd round. Then, go all in, and use the final piece to hopefully put you over the top.But you don't get any worthwile long-term deals done by trading Jarnkroks, Backmans and Janmarks. At absolute most those kind of prospects are throw-ins to much larger pieces being moved.
I'd also say that Cole was one of the better trade deadline pick-ups Holland has made in a long time and I don't like using hindsight to criticize what is good moves at the time. Basically any rental is absolutely useless if you don't win the cup, that doesn't mean you should never try.
Of course, you should try - if you're in the conversation for contending for a Cup. As in, your minimum expectation is to make the 3rd round. Then, go all in, and use the final piece to hopefully put you over the top.
The problem is that Detroit hasn't been a legit contender for several years, but that their general manager is in denial about it (or at least has been; we'll see what this summer holds).