Henrik Lundqvist - Does he make the HoF?

[Filthy Dangles]

No cup, 1 Vezina, .500 PO record

Best goalie of a generation, backbone and carrier of some mediocre Ranger teams

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[QJL]

Yes, maybe not on first vote, but he will get in.

His international resume should be mentioned.

He’s been a fantastic playoff goalie and would’ve won a cup with better teams. A win percentage of .500 is actually quite impressive for a non-cup winner.

 

[Polar Bear]

Not even a question yes.

 

[jetsforever]

Yep

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Pretty easy yes.

 

[MitchMurphy]

Yes indeed.

 

[DDRhockey]

No cup, 1 Vezina, .500 PO record

Best goalie of a generation, backbone and carrier of some mediocre Ranger teams

You forgot olympic gold

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Yes, he's one of the best goalies of all time

 

[North Cole]

Even if he doesn't his number is guaranteed retired.

 

[Plural]

I think he gets in.

 

[Laineux]

Lundqvist leads the entire NHL in wins above replacement during his career, over Crosby and Ovechkin.

 

[Plural]

Lundqvist leads the entire NHL in wins above replacement during his career, over Crosby and Ovechkin.

WAR in hockey is practically useless stat though.

 

[Laineux]

WAR in hockey is practically useless stat though.

I don't think so for goalies. I think it should be fairly accurate for goaltenders because of the nature of the position, at least compared to skaters.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

No.

 

[Spirit of 67]

Nope. He's been very, very good but I think he's just not quite there.

Checks our Lundqvist's resume.

Actually, I change my mind (and vote). I think he does get in. His resume is actually pretty impressive.

 

[Plural]

I don't think so for goalies. I think it should be fairly accurate for goaltenders because of the nature of the position, at least compared to skaters.

Why? I'm legitimately curious. It's probably easier to calculate for goalies than it is for skaters.

 

[Laineux]

Why? I'm legitimately curious. It's probably easier to calculate for goalies than it is for skaters.

I would guess that it's much more accurate to just calculate how much above replacement a goaltender saves shots based on shot location and shot type. It should even out over a large sample size to be fairly accurate. Lundqvist has always been incredible in goals saved above average.

For skaters though it's much more difficult to come up with a definite way of calculating just how much they impacted the game. It changes from an individual position to a team game.

 

[Plural]

I would guess that it's much more accurate to just calculate how much above replacement a goaltender saves shots based on shot location and shot type. It should even out over a large sample size to be fairly accurate. Lundqvist has always been incredible in goals saved above average.

For skaters though it's much more difficult to come up with a definite way of calculating just how much they impacted the game. It changes from an individual position to a team game.

I tend to agree. Although even if goalie as a position is sort of like a hybrid of individual sport and team sport.

Where did you get the WAR statistics? I know one place only and for skaters those numbers are extremely whacky.

 

[Laineux]

I tend to agree. Although even if goalie as a position is sort of like a hybrid of individual sport and team sport.

Where did you get the WAR statistics? I know one place only and for skaters those numbers are extremely whacky.

Corsica | WAR

 

[Plural]

Corsica | WAR

Ok. Yeah that's the place I was talking about.

 

[syz]

Normally I'd say cups count for a lot, but his playoffs stats are nuts so it's not like there's much more he could've done.

 

[Voight]

From 2006-2015 the lowest he placed in Vezina voting was 6th, twice. He was a finalist 5 times, including the time he won. That's amazing consistency.

He will likely retire without a ring but he still has the Gold Medal and the distinction of being the top goalie for about a decade.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Yes

 

[EdJovanovski]

Yes definitely

 

[Varan]

ya bro easy