Have you ever had a year where you'd be okay not to see any deadline trades made?

[pooleboy]

I don't think we should pick up anyone, we can trade kulemin, Raymond franson and use our depth to replace them but unless we get a nice pick or price for them we can do nothing and I'd be happy, don't like losing players for nothing but whatever not a huge deal

 

[FriedEgg]

Weather to make a move at the deadline is circumstantial. I hope management realizes that this team is not contending for a cup this year. Trade some pieces you know isn't in your long term plans for assets. Either picks used to draft or trade at the draft.

 

[Avec Fromage*]

In my opinion, we made our trade deadline pickup early in Gleason.

I assume Holland and Reimer will be moved after the season.

 

[Tak7]

I could see a minor deal being made to make more roster room for guys like Holland and Bolland returning. Maybe one of Orr or McLaren get dealt, or at the very least waived.

I wouldn't expect anything major though. Fact is, with the contractual situation the Leafs find themselves in, it pretty much has to be a money-in FOR money-out type of deal, which are so hard to make in this league right now.

I would be OK heading into the post-season with this group. Not a contending group, but a competitive group that could really use another year of post-season experience to grow and progress.

 

[Cor]

In my opinion, we made our trade deadline pickup early in Gleason.

I assume Holland and Reimer will be moved after the season.

Holland won't be moved. Reimer may not either for that fact. Dave Nonis already said he can see both Reimer and Bernier being back next season.

I think Reimer will be moved, but it's not a slam dunk.

Holland has no chance. I think Kadri has more of a chance to be dealt then Holland

 

[Warden of the North]

Our trade deadline acquistion is Bolland, after not playing for three months. Similar to when Lupul returned from injury last year and tore it up.

I also dont see why Holland is going to be moved. The fact Smithson is playing tomorrow night shows our C depth is still crap.

 

[FlareKnight]

It was the same way at least last year. Don't really care to sell since we're trying to make the playoffs and keep developing this team. Of course losing guys for nothing would suck, but don't want to make too many moves either. If we could move Franson for anything I'd take that though .

Same for adding. We're not at a win stage yet so don't want to do any "sell the farm" kind of things.

In the end it's a team assembled largely through trades so I won't say we shouldn't look into trades. If they can improve the team reasonably I'm in. I'm just not hyped up about the deadline.

 

[Highlander23]

There is a player i would like to acquire: Lauri Korpikoski from Phoenix, THE PERFECT 3rd line winger !!

Maybe Franson for Tanev from vancouver ??

 

[Daisy Jane]

Our trade deadline acquistion is Bolland, after not playing for three months. Similar to when Lupul returned from injury last year and tore it up.

I also dont see why Holland is going to be moved. The fact Smithson is playing tomorrow night shows our C depth is still crap.

and Randy really likes Smith [who can play]
and Clarkson who has been in and out of the line up.

basically - if you ditch Raymond, and Kulemin [for a player right now]
+ Franson for Girardi [again - if Girardi doesn't sign with us -no big whoop]. Franson leaving means we can have a Leafling come up this summer, and erase the headache you KNOW is coming, because I've said it. I love Nonis, I'll defend the guy - but I will severely start chucking rocks at his head if he gives Franson 4 years at 4 million. i do not CARE if Franson next season becomes the second coming of Bobby Orr. Hell, I don't even care if Franson was BETTER than Bobby Orr. let him do it else where, because for every Bobby Orr moment - you know he'll pinch and cause a goal back.

no wait - I retract that

trade Franson for Dan Boyle from SJ.
HE'S what we need. and then give him 2 years at X mill.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Our trade deadline acquistion is Bolland, after not playing for three months. Similar to when Lupul returned from injury last year and tore it up.

I also dont see why Holland is going to be moved. The fact Smithson is playing tomorrow night shows our C depth is still crap.

Agreed, He's not going anywhere. We paid a 2nd, And he's shown in spurts that he the ability to be a good top 9, Maybe even a 2nd line centre.


I'll be honest I'm not sure I would touch the roster too much at this point. Maybe Raymond, Then move Holland to the wing when Bolland returns. But moving Kulemin, And yes even Franson may disrupt the team too much.

In the off season Kulemin is free, But Franson's RFA rights could be moved the draft for a pick or two(3rd and 5th or something).

 

[Trapper]

At the deadline there are 2 types of trades.
Buyers and sellers.
You sell to improve your club next year and in the future.
You buy to win now (short term)
I don't care about the deadline, I care about the trades that make us better as a team. The trade that compliments what we have (age wise, position wise) to improve the club. Call it deadline, call it draft day, call it the offseason, just make smart trades not overpayments on 1 day in the year.

 

[horner]

I would like to see something done to strengthen our Defense

I agree with you

Would love to find

3rd pairing or spare d'man in the mold of Gleason

block shots
hit
get the puck out

 

[KrisLetAngry]

I'd like to package Franson and a pick for a defensive upgrade. Some rugged guy who is going to go to war in the playoffs and will provide some stability on the back end.
I'd have zero issue adding our 1st to Franson to get that as well, as long as the player coming back still fits into our age group and is a unanimous top-4 righthanded defender.

I'm sure I'll catch some flack for including the first, but man, the East is wide open and if we can sidestep the Bruins, I really think we can make some noise.

The questions that remain for me are
1. Does this ideal player exist for us?
2. Can we get him for Franny and a 1st?

A guy that immediately comes to mind is Giordano (ignoring the left shot as a point of reference)




How do you all feel about this?

Would you do Kulemin for Niskanen???

Right handed defense who is okay at offense (don't let this year fool you) and he plays sound defense. Only downside is he isn't extremely physical but with him matched with Gleason or Phaneuf would do the team good.



Add: Tanev > Franson
Tanev to Toronto .

Franson ++ to Vancouver

Also Franson would not make Vancouver better they already have a 'good' defenseAdd: Tanev > Franson
Tanev to Toronto .

Franson ++ to Vancouver

Also Franson would not make Vancouver better they already have a 'good' defense

 

[diceman934]

Not in favour of moving Franson he is a right shot d man who is playing against quality players....his play has gotten better the last 15 games he leads the league in hits and is play on the pp had seen us move to among the best since him being placed on the top unit.. His play this far makes him a little cheaper when looking to lock him up. There would be many teams after him if he was made available. He has seen a different partner on his pairing far too much up establish a comfort zone with them. He is a solid 2nd pair d man and is having a off year. Pair him with Gunnar and that would be a pairing that could be relied on to play tough minutes.

We move Raymond and Kule if he wants to much for next year. Holland can play with Bolland when he returns or with Kadri and Lupul .

 

[Kamiccolo]

and Randy really likes Smith [who can play]
and Clarkson who has been in and out of the line up.

basically - if you ditch Raymond, and Kulemin [for a player right now]
+ Franson for Girardi [again - if Girardi doesn't sign with us -no big whoop]. Franson leaving means we can have a Leafling come up this summer, and erase the headache you KNOW is coming, because I've said it. I love Nonis, I'll defend the guy - but I will severely start chucking rocks at his head if he gives Franson 4 years at 4 million. i do not CARE if Franson next season becomes the second coming of Bobby Orr. Hell, I don't even care if Franson was BETTER than Bobby Orr. let him do it else where, because for every Bobby Orr moment - you know he'll pinch and cause a goal back.

no wait - I retract that

trade Franson for Dan Boyle from SJ.
HE'S what we need. and then give him 2 years at X mill.

That is a pretty ignorant comment IMO. You don't care if we let an amazing player walk just because you don't like him for some strange reason? He has had a bad season defensively, last year he was a very solid two way defensemen, and he is a plus player in his career.

I don't understand the Franson scapegoat thing this board has going. Do I think he is worth 4 x 4. It depends. He brings things the leafs really need. He is a big, right handed Dman, who has a bullet on the point, who is the reason we have such a good PP this year, and who even though is having a down year, is a overall good top 4 defensemen.

Honestly, I'd rather trade Gardiner for help than Franson. Gards is redundant in Reilly, and Gards could probably fetch us more than Franson could.

 

[Future]

That is a pretty ignorant comment IMO. You don't care if we let an amazing player walk just because you don't like him for some strange reason? He has had a bad season defensively, last year he was a very solid two way defensemen, and he is a plus player in his career.

I don't understand the Franson scapegoat thing this board has going. Do I think he is worth 4 x 4. It depends. He brings things the leafs really need. He is a big, right handed Dman, who has a bullet on the point, who is the reason we have such a good PP this year, and who even though is having a down year, is a overall good top 4 defensemen.

Honestly, I'd rather trade Gardiner for help than Franson. Gards is redundant in Reilly, and Gards could probably fetch us more than Franson could.

Are you Cody Franson?

 

[Primary Assist]

Would you do Kulemin for Niskanen???

Right handed defense who is okay at offense (don't let this year fool you) and he plays sound defense. Only downside is he isn't extremely physical but with him matched with Gleason or Phaneuf would do the team good.



Add: Tanev > Franson
Tanev to Toronto .

Franson ++ to Vancouver

Also Franson would not make Vancouver better they already have a 'good' defenseAdd: Tanev > Franson
Tanev to Toronto .

Franson ++ to Vancouver

Also Franson would not make Vancouver better they already have a 'good' defense

I don't think Vancouver wants Franson. They already have Jason Garrison, and they just picked up Diaz who's also something of a PP specialist.

 

[Daisy Jane]

That is a pretty ignorant comment IMO. You don't care if we let an amazing player walk just because you don't like him for some strange reason? He has had a bad season defensively, last year he was a very solid two way defensemen, and he is a plus player in his career.

I don't understand the Franson scapegoat thing this board has going. Do I think he is worth 4 x 4. It depends. He brings things the leafs really need. He is a big, right handed Dman, who has a bullet on the point, who is the reason we have such a good PP this year, and who even though is having a down year, is a overall good top 4 defensemen.

Honestly, I'd rather trade Gardiner for help than Franson. Gards is redundant in Reilly, and Gards could probably fetch us more than Franson could.

Actually.
I do like Franson

But I don't like what he did this summer by holding out - which has affected his play this year.

I don't like the fact he doesn't know properly how to run a clock.

I don't like the boneheaded plays that he makes.

Last year, Franson was a great third pairing defenseman. This year Franson is severely struggling as a top 4.

and I don't like the fact that he will be a headache to sign. two years in a row, he threatened to hold out. And his play is not resulting in the contract he'll demand. Nonis will not offer 4x4, Franson will file for arbitration, and quite frankly, Nonis will walk away and we'll lose out.

I'd trade Franson and get the veteran (and i mean older than 30) defenseman that blueline needs. Gardiner has more upside than Franson, and the same argument you made of "Gards being 'Redudant' by Rielly" can be applicable to Franson as well.

 

[robdicks]

Unless there is something to improve us now and the future (blockbuster deal for Evander Kane might be that), I think we should stand pat. Those types of deals don't usually happen at the deadline, so I'm going to say we should stand pat.

We aren't winning the cup this year, so any Defensive help we get will just be taking away minutes from Rielly and Gardiner. I want those two playing.

 

[Shaun_W_W]

I would be okay with no trades this year but I would like any of these things:
Re-sign Kulie
Trade Franson (+) for an defensive defenseman (upgrade)
Move Raymond for picks/prospects to replace all the futures we have traded this year.

 

[The Blue Devil]

This is the first year ever that I've looked at our roster and thought, "you know what, I don't mind if they don't make any trades at the deadline this year."

Not saying the team is perfect by any stretch, but right now it feels like this team is continuing to grow/mesh in the right direction. I'm more concerned about them messing up the chemistry of the team by trading someone like Kulemin away than I am about them improving by addressing the immediate holes.

I'm kind of hoping nothing major happens at the trade deadline and we get to see how this team performs this go around in the playoffs, then make adjustments in the offseason accordingly. Around this time of the year I'm normally starting to hope for a blockbuster that shakes things up and brings in a needed element (e.g. a blockbuster that ships a bunch of guys out and brings in a 1C or something), but this year I want to just see what happens.

Anyone else feel like this about this year's team, or if not, when was the last time you felt this way about the Leafs? 93-94? I find it hard to imagine anyone has been happy with any of the 1995ish - 2013 teams, but some probably find it hard to believe I'm happy with this team as it is for the moment.

We were a 100 point team pre-2005 lockout and made the Eastern conference finals twice in 99 and 02.

 

[The Blue Devil]

I don't think we should pick up anyone, we can trade kulemin, Raymond franson and use our depth to replace them but unless we get a nice pick or price for them we can do nothing and I'd be happy, don't like losing players for nothing but whatever not a huge deal

So you'd be happy to throw away playoffs for a couple of picks?

 

[hullsy47]

This is the first year ever that I've looked at our roster and thought, "you know what, I don't mind if they don't make any trades at the deadline this year."

Not saying the team is perfect by any stretch, but right now it feels like this team is continuing to grow/mesh in the right direction. I'm more concerned about them messing up the chemistry of the team by trading someone like Kulemin away than I am about them improving by addressing the immediate holes.

I'm kind of hoping nothing major happens at the trade deadline and we get to see how this team performs this go around in the playoffs, then make adjustments in the offseason accordingly. Around this time of the year I'm normally starting to hope for a blockbuster that shakes things up and brings in a needed element (e.g. a blockbuster that ships a bunch of guys out and brings in a 1C or something), but this year I want to just see what happens.

Anyone else feel like this about this year's team, or if not, when was the last time you felt this way about the Leafs? 93-94? I find it hard to imagine anyone has been happy with any of the 1995ish - 2013 teams, but some probably find it hard to believe I'm happy with this team as it is for the moment.

this team isnt good enuff to stand pat yet .......but so are about 7 other teams ,,so most of the trades are going be to west conference ..lots more contenders there

 

[Jay99999*]

Guys. Breath here a bit. Fact is, if we make a deal, it will be one that is based around cap space.

I think you will see Kulemin gone, but don't be shocked if we just re-sign the guy.

But, IMHO, Kuli will likely be gone. Kuli will need a replacement player though.

I doubt Franson in moved because of the Fraser pick. Leaves us a bit thin back there unless Nonis packages Franson and a prospect for a better stay at home D man.

 

[AustonMitchWilly]

I don't think we should pick up anyone, we can trade kulemin, Raymond franson and use our depth to replace them but unless we get a nice pick or price for them we can do nothing and I'd be happy, don't like losing players for nothing but whatever not a huge deal

Using the depth to fill out a top 5 scorer on our team, a top 5 point getter on our team, and one of the top 5 defensive forwards is not a good idea.

1/4 of our forwards become AHLers. And any injuries lead to weaker AHLers being inserted.