Has Kopitar now surpassed Toews career?

[Laineux]

With a Selke and a Hart nomination, has Anze Kopitar finally surpassed Jonathan Toews career? Or does Toews' extra Cup still reign him supreme over the Slovenian wonder?

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[Luigi Habs]

When all is said and done, Kopitar will be known as the superior hockey player.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Not sure

 

[Plural]

They're super close. I guess I'd slightly lean towards Kopitar.

 

[nhlfan9191]

I think Kopitar has surpassed him and it’s not a slap in the face to Toews at all. Kopitar is just that good.

 

[sr edler]

With a Selke and a Hart nomination

It's him, Hall and McKinnon, right? Who's expected to win that one? Players aren't nominated, by the way, just voted on. So all we know at the moment is that he finished top 3 in Hart voting.

 

[Thallis]

It's him, Hall and McKinnon, right? Who's expected to win that one? Players aren't nominated, by the way, just voted on. So all we know at the moment is that he finished top 3 in Hart voting.

Hall won

 

[ViktorBaeArvidsson]

Well as a biased Predators fan I would say... Yes, yes he did surpass him, in fact he has always been better. Get rekted Toews. *dab*

im sorry. i promise im not 13

 

[DannyGallivan]

With a Selke and a Hart nomination, has Anze Kopitar finally surpassed Jonathan Toews career? Or does Toews' extra Cup still reign him supreme over the Slovenian wonder?

No. He's had a magnificent season while the entire Blackhawks team is slipping. I'll still give Toews the edge, including his international play.

...and when you're having this discussion, you need to include Bergeron too. These are three incredible players who often haven't gotten enough attention because people like shiny things ("Ooh, look... 100 points!" instead of "That guy does everything, except get 100 points.")

 

[Seanaconda]

He's always been the better player so

 

[sr edler]

Hall won

Okay, I don't follow NHL award shows.

 

[SotasicA]

Yes, I'd rank Kopitar ahead. I think they were in the same tier prior to this season. And now Kopitar had a monster year. There aren't many current players ahead of him. The only thing Toews had was an edge in hardware, but Kopitar has been the better player even without the 2nd Selke.

Toews would now need to outlast Kopitar and play a couple years longer. And possibly win more.

 

[93LEAFS]

Sucks for Kopitar he plays for Slovenia. Toews career, when viewed by the public, is helped significantly by his iconic performances at IIHF events. I'd lean Kopitar, but it wouldn't shock me at all if the general voting writer prefers Toews due to the extra cup, 2 Olympic Golds and other international accomplishments.

 

[Seanaconda]

No. He's had a magnificent season while the entire Blackhawks team is slipping. I'll still give Toews the edge, including his international play.

...and when you're having this discussion, you need to include Bergeron too. These are three incredible players who often haven't gotten enough attention because people like shiny things ("Ooh, look... 100 points!" instead of "That guy does everything, except get 100 points.")

Wowww you can't use international play to compare the guy from Canada to the guy that's the only player from his country in the nhl

 

[sr edler]

Speaking of international competition, didn't Kopitar lead an underdog Team Europe to World Cup final?

 

[Jtown]

They really aren't super close at all. Its Kopi and its always been Kopi. Give kopi a hall of fame winger every year of his career and see what happens.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

I've always thought of Kopitar as the superior player and still do to this day. The International play is absolutely moot in my opinon, considering that Kopitar is literally the only player from his country in the NHL.

 

[Styles]

I don't think an extra cup is any reason to say Toews has had a better career than Kopitar.

Kopitar in 922 games - 290G / 538A / 828P / 0.90PPG, 2 Selkies
Toews in 791 games - 292G / 382A / 674P / 0.85PPG, 1 Selkie, 1 Smythe

The edge is already in Kopitars favor. Although I guess it depends what Toews does in the 131 games to catch up to Kopitars games played.

 

[Laineux]

Sucks for Kopitar he plays for Slovenia. Toews career, when viewed by the public, is helped significantly by his iconic performances at IIHF events. I'd lean Kopitar, but it wouldn't shock me at all if the general voting writer prefers Toews due to the extra cup, 2 Olympic Golds and other international accomplishments.

He was given the combined forces of Europe to attack Toews and Team Canada, but ultimately fell short...

 

[illpucks]

With a Selke and a Hart nomination, has Anze Kopitar finally surpassed Jonathan Toews career? Or does Toews' extra Cup still reign him supreme over the Slovenian wonder?

Only on HF has Kopitar surpassed him. Kopitar is a choker as a captain and the Kings have gone nowhere without the leadership of Dustin Brown. Question few years back was has Toews surpassed Crosby?

 

[DannyGallivan]

Wowww you can't use international play to compare the guy from Canada to the guy that's the only player from his country in the nhl

Heh, heh, heh.

Actually, I was referring to the fact that on an international team of all-stars, Toews had been the very best (2010 Gold Medal team). It's kinda easy for Kopitar to be the best on his team. I wasn't talking about winning golds. Shoulda been more clear.

 

[Ivan13]

When all is said and done, Kopitar will be known as the superior hockey player.

Not likely, at least talking about the perception that will be driven among casual fans. Toews will have the narrative behind him because he is a good Canadian boy and the hype machine is much bigger for him, despite the fact that Anže was the superior player throughout their career. Quite frankly, I don't think Toews was the best defensive forward on his line, let alone in the league.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Kopitar has always been the better player.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Love both but Toews in his prime was just simply a better player.

 

[Seanaconda]

Not likely, at least talking about the perception that will be driven among casual fans. Toews will have the narrative behind him because he is a good Canadian boy and the hype machine is much bigger for him, despite the fact that Anže was the superior player throughout their career. Quite frankly, I don't think Toews was the best defensive forward on his line, let alone in the league.

Hossa would be bergeron for league cuz he literally wins the selke any time he plays close to a full season