Speculation: Has Adam Oates Been Fired Yet????

[hb12xchamps]

Quick question,

Is Oates responsible for the PP success or is that on one of the assistants. Also, how much of that success really is on the coach with this group of PP guys we have. I remember when Oates was in Hershey their PP was god awful (and still is!)

 

[usiel]

Quick question,

Is Oates responsible for the PP success or is that on one of the assistants. Also, how much of that success really is on the coach with this group of PP guys we have. I remember when Oates was in Hershey their PP was god awful (and still is!)

I thought the PP was Forsythe's responsibility.

 

[foundhockey]

Quick question,

Is Oates responsible for the PP success or is that on one of the assistants. Also, how much of that success really is on the coach with this group of PP guys we have. I remember when Oates was in Hershey their PP was god awful (and still is!)

The PP is Forsythe.

 

[Liberati0n*]

The PP is Forsythe.

Yes. That doesn't mean it's not Oates' design. Forsythe runs it and makes smaller changes, but all signs are that the PP system is Oates'. Oates also at least promoted Forsythe before this season and may have hired him in the first place(?).

It seems like it's a pretty ingenious design...as long as you have an Ovechkin. Losing him would compromise everything.

 

[IafrateOvie34]

I remember a lot of NJD fans claiming Oates wouldn't be a good head coach and frustrated with him as an assistant.

 

[Calicaps]

Yes. That doesn't mean it's not Oates' design. Forsythe runs it and makes smaller changes, but all signs are that the PP system is Oates'. Oates also at least promoted Forsythe before this season and may have hired him in the first place(?).

It seems like it's a pretty ingenious design...as long as you have an Ovechkin. Losing him would compromise everything.

Oates's whole career, player and coach, in a paragraph. It's always been about helping one guy score goals:

Hull
Neely
Bondra
Kovie
Ovie

 

[Hivemind]

Quick question,

Is Oates responsible for the PP success or is that on one of the assistants. Also, how much of that success really is on the coach with this group of PP guys we have. I remember when Oates was in Hershey their PP was god awful (and still is!)

Forsythe has the direct responsibility, but it's an Oates design. It has a lot in common with what the Devils were doing under Oates.

I remember a lot of NJD fans claiming Oates wouldn't be a good head coach and frustrated with him as an assistant.

And a lot of NJ players, including guys like Elias, claiming he would be an excellent head coach.

 

[ChibiPooky]

I remember a lot of NJD fans claiming Oates wouldn't be a good head coach and frustrated with him as an assistant.

And a lot of NJ players, including guys like Elias, claiming he would be an excellent head coach.

If the NJD players knew anything, they'd be in the game.

Guess this proves once and for all that HFBoards posters are the authority on such topics

 

[FloridaCap]

Forsythe has the direct responsibility, but it's an Oates design. It has a lot in common with what the Devils were doing under Oates.


And a lot of NJ players, including guys like Elias, claiming he would be an excellent head coach.

What else would they say publicly? "Eh, I didn't like Adam to be honest. He nitpicked everything and just didn't contribute a whole lot to the coaching staff."

DeBoer's words on Oates during the last NJ/WSH game spoke volumes. He had to think for like 5 long seconds of anything positive to say about him. All he could muster up was pretty much "he was a smart player, so he's a smart coach".

 

[swimmer77]

Forsythe has the direct responsibility, but it's an Oates design. It has a lot in common with what the Devils were doing under Oates.


And a lot of NJ players, including guys like Elias, claiming he would be an excellent head coach.

I'd claim that too in hopes he would be hired elsewhere.

 

[Langway]

Trotz's contract reportedly expires at the end of June in Nashville. Yay or nay? Depends on who the higher-ups are but I kind of don't mind the idea. He's a stable experienced hand at least. I'd take him over Tortorella, assuming he gets the axe once their mgmt. makes up their mind.

Whoever it is needs to preach defense leading to offense and explosive speed through the neutral zone. I don't think Trotz would handicap them in that regard and maybe they'd finally get good D management. I might like the length of the resume more than the content but I wouldn't mind him being on the short list.

 

[Brian23]

I'm not sure I want anything to do with either Tort...

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

As long as Laviolette is out there, I'd say no to Trotz.

If Lavi gets hired before the Caps make a change, it's worth considering, but I'm not sure Trotz's style/system, however defenseman friendly it may be, fits the Caps' core.

 

[Langway]

If you hire Fenton, though, Trotz likely becomes the logical frontrunner to coach I would think. Would Trotz open it up to a greater extent with more horses up front? Could Evason join him?

Either way they need to get the higher-up positions settled first--and hopefully sooner than later--so that they can get everything in order to prepare for subsequent hires and the off-season generally. The longer it takes the greater the chance that some of the coaching candidates get picked off.

It's looking like Nashville, Toronto, Carolina and Vancouver could all be making coaching changes among non-playoff teams. Highly disappointing first round losses could add a few more among playoff teams and could provide those other teams a reason not to rush into a hire.

If they're also looking at a front office executive to begin the process then change should start coming pretty soon you'd think.

 

[PucktotheHead]

Either way they need to get the higher-up positions settled first--

Agree.

Who might they look at as a possibility for President of the club? Inside the Org promotion or (hopefully) bring someone new in? And what would you guys think about Jim Benning as GM?

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

Agree.

Who might they look at as a possibility for President of the club? Inside the Org promotion or (hopefully) bring someone new in? And what would you guys think about Jim Benning as GM?

No idea how realistic these names would be as possibilities, but Pat Quinn and Pierre Lacroix seem interesting choices as President.

Benning would be one of my top 3 (along with Joe Will and probably Jeff Gorton) for GM.

 

[Langway]

It would have to be someone from outside the org. Who knows. Plenty of names out there. I'm a fan of NotGretzky.

Now Walsh is putting Oates on blast:

SkyKerstein: Statement from #Caps Halak's agent @walsha "On Jaroslav Halak, Jaro never at anytime said he didn't want to start against St. Louis...A private conversation between a player and coach should stay private and not be discussed with the media....I am bewildered that a coach would break that trust especially when those comments the coach publicly attributed to Jaro are not accurate...It's the coach who makes the decision on who plays in the games, not the players."

 

[BrooklynCapsFan]

SkyKerstein: Statement from #Caps Halak's agent @walsha "On Jaroslav Halak, Jaro never at anytime said he didn't want to start against St. Louis...A private conversation between a player and coach should stay private and not be discussed with the media....I am bewildered that a coach would break that trust especially when those comments the coach publicly attributed to Jaro are not accurate...It's the coach who makes the decision on who plays in the games, not the players."

 

[PucktotheHead]

I am just about to the point where I believe Oates is doing this crap on purpose to get back at the club that stripped his "C" after he demanded a trade and they then traded him to Philly. lol

 

[Capitlols]

So Oates is Mike Shanahan.

 

[swimmer77]

LOL

I figured Walsh would chime in and I have no qualms with his chiming in this time.

I'll be happy to this thread title change to "Adam Oates Has FINALLY Been Fired".

 

[BobRouse]

So Oates is Mike Shanahan.

Sure seems like it.

 

[Liberati0n*]

This is amazing. I hope it gets worse.

 

[g00n]

I am just about to the point where I believe Oates is doing this crap on purpose to get back at the club that stripped his "C" after he demanded a trade and they then traded him to Philly. lol

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=82600589&postcount=757

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=82623127&postcount=765

Enjoy!

 

[PucktotheHead]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=82600589&postcount=757

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=82623127&postcount=765

Enjoy!

Well done my brother...well done. lol