Confirmed with Link: Habs Sign Sami Niku to One year Contract

japhi

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Its good to be a member of the ‘ole boys club’.

Just to be clear, your expectation of a GM is that they never sign a bad deal? Has nothing to do with old boys club, anyone that spends anytime in seat will make mistakes. Some of the young guns like Dubas and Chayka are some of the worst offenders.

We get it, you hate MB
 

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Just to be clear, your expectation of a GM is that they never sign a bad deal? Has nothing to do with old boys club, anyone that spends anytime in seat will make mistakes. Some of the young guns like Dubas and Chayka are some of the worst offenders.

We get it, you hate MB
Say what you want about Bergy but he has made it to the 3rd round and 4th he's definitely not the worst GM out there is he anything special I would say no but he has made some really good moves
 

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MB is good at trading, good at seeing when a player is starting to go downhill and trading him away for better assets. He's not very good in the draft and contract departement.
 

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MB is good at trading, good at seeing when a player is starting to go downhill and trading him away for better assets. He's not very good in the draft and contract departement.
Price, Pacioretty, Gallagher second contracts were all incredible home town discounts.

Petry’s re-up deal after being acquired in 2015 was also a very good deal - that’s the only pending UFA deal he was able to get a discount on.

I suppose the thinking was, Price & Gallagher had to be compensated for their expiring home town discounts

If Drouin avg 50-pts+ next 2-years, that $5.5M is the going rate, at this moment doesn’t look good

Anderson is TBD - averaging 25G+ for the remainder would make it a bargain given ancillary benefit of size + speed + physicality
 
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Just to be clear, your expectation of a GM is that they never sign a bad deal? Has nothing to do with old boys club, anyone that spends anytime in seat will make mistakes. Some of the young guns like Dubas and Chayka are some of the worst offenders.

We get it, you hate MB
I don't hate him. I refer to him as an Idiot Savant because moments of his lunacy and are sometimes followed by moments of illumination. But in the long run, Bergevin's mistakes have outweighed his successes. And most importantly, by the most objective of all standards, the team's winning record under Bergevin's management has been a failure.

I think most here would agree that if the Canadiens had lost game 5 to the Leafs, Bergevin's tenure with this fabled franchise would have come to an end. The team's most unusual and unexpected playoff run had many consequences, the least of which, was salvaging Bergevin's job.
 
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MB is good at trading, good at seeing when a player is starting to go downhill and trading him away for better assets. He's not very good in the draft and contract departement.
Well , maybe. But the Tampa fans are still gleeful about the the Drouin for Segechev trade. The Montreal fans, are somewhat less gleeful.
 

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I don't hate him. I refer to him as an Idiot Savant because moments of his lunacy and are sometimes followed by moments of illumination. But in the long run, Bergevin's mistakes have outweighed his successes. And most importantly, by the most objective of all standards, the team's winning record under Bergevin's management has been a failure.

I think most here would agree that if the Canadiens had lost game 5 to the Leafs, Bergevin's tenure with this fabled franchise would have come to an end. The team's most unusual and unexpected playoff run had many consequences, the least of which, was salvaging Bergevin's job.


.... As well as Ducharme's and Timmins" jobs. Too bad.
 

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Hey, I seen Niku play in person at the Bell in 2018. He scored the OT winner

Jets fan coming in peace.

Niku's time to shine was 2019-21, when the Jets lost Byfuglien. Trouba, Chiarot, and Myers in a short period of time, depleting the team of good blueliners. Niku had one really good season in 2017-18 in the AHL and unfortunately has not really progressed past that point. In 2019-20 a spot was his for the taking on the Jets, and sadly as good as Niku is on offense, he lacks what it takes to be in the regular lineup.

I wish him luck in Montreal. Chiarot, from all that I heard has done well. Maybe this is the spark that Niku needs in his career, to break out.
 

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Jets fan coming in peace.

Niku's time to shine was 2019-21, when the Jets lost Byfuglien. Trouba, Chiarot, and Myers in a short period of time, depleting the team of good blueliners. Niku had one really good season in 2017-18 in the AHL and unfortunately has not really progressed past that point. In 2019-20 a spot was his for the taking on the Jets, and sadly as good as Niku is on offense, he lacks what it takes to be in the regular lineup.

I wish him luck in Montreal. Chiarot, from all that I heard has done well. Maybe this is the spark that Niku needs in his career, to break out.

Thanks for posting. Yeah, you never know, but I don't have many expectations. Bergevin's brought in some duds (Gus, Merrill, and some decent bottom pair guys for nothing (Weaver, Kulak). So we'll see. Mike Reilly seems to be doing well in Boston, finally, after sucking for so long.
 

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I don't hate him. I refer to him as an Idiot Savant because moments of his lunacy and are sometimes followed by moments of illumination. But in the long run, Bergevin's mistakes have outweighed his successes. And most importantly, by the most objective of all standards, the team's winning record under Bergevin's management has been a failure.

I think most here would agree that if the Canadiens had lost game 5 to the Leafs, Bergevin's tenure with this fabled franchise would have come to an end. The team's most unusual and unexpected playoff run had many consequences, the least of which, was salvaging Bergevin's job.

Was he offered an extension before game 5? Thought I heard he was but might be wrong. But if do then it most on here couldn't sy he woulda been gone unless by his decision not yo resign.

He actually has done a pretty good job last 3 years. JMO.
And previously.....mistakes..yup....but so has every other GM in the NHL.
He has a directive from higher up the food chain and has to follow that which has lead to some decisions. Again JMO without an inner ear at the main table. Do you have one?
The hate on him from some comes without a clear picture of what he was asked to do. Again JMO.

The tank, blow it all up, was never an option IMO and one that doesn't always work.

Price was the best player in a Cup finals run n earned his cheque, Weber the best Player in finals n outlasted Subban, Anderson made huge plays in playoffs, Toffoli worked out, Romanov looks good, Patches trade was great, DVOlooks like a plus, Edmumdson n Chairot worked out ( regardless of the complaints of keyboard warriors but respected players of hockey minds) Petry huge plus. Evans developed well....drafting seems to have them with a few calibre prospects. He has made alot of good moves. And yes some stinkers as ALL GMs do.
Tough in this market as in TO to be the man calling the shots. More so when limited by the higher ups with a mandate.
I'd give him another contract, easy.
 

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Well , maybe. But the Tampa fans are still gleeful about the the Drouin for Segechev trade. The Montreal fans, are somewhat less gleeful.

He ( Sergachev) takes a beating on their board. Go back a bit n take a look.
Not a great trade for Habs but let's not say the fans are gleeful about him as a player. Quit the opposite when I looked at their board and went back from playoffs to reg season. He has left much to be desired from the faithful as the superstar D many on here think he is.
 
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MB is good at trading, good at seeing when a player is starting to go downhill and trading him away for better assets. He's not very good in the draft and contract departement.

That's false.

Jarred Tinordi, Nathan Beaulieu and Greg Pateryn. All seems promising and he and Therrien would sit 2 and play one. If a mistake was made, they were benched and then scratched.

Traded Tinordi and Fournier for Scott.
Traded Beaulieu for a 3rd
Traded Pateryn and a 4th for Benn.

Seen Andrighetto had some good moments, but held onto him and let him go in and out of the lineup until he was Traded for Martinsen.

Daniel Carr had some promising time with us. Definitely had some value, but wasn't qualified.

Drafted Fucale too high and didn't trade him after he won gold.

Martin Reway looked like a real promising prospects. Went downhill and was just unsigned.

Paul Byron put up a few 20 goal seasons for cheap. We sucked, should have dealt him, but re-signed him and now we have a 3.4 mill healthy scratch.

Tomas Tatar - team sucked. Should have Traded him, didn't, made the play in and he didn't really do anything. Should have Traded him in the offseason, didn't and lost him for nothing this off season.

Mark Streit was done. Habs signed him, then bought him out.


I mean, I'm sure there's more. Sure, he traded chucky for Domi and it's quite clear we got super lucky with his season, but he quickly turned into a dud, which helped us land Anderson. So far so good for him.

Weise and Fleischmann for Danault and a 2nd (Romanov)

And I'm sure there's another.

He's extremely tentative in trading futures, except Sergachev. Team can't draft and has a hard time developing. He should be trading futures like crazy
 

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He ( Sergachev) takes a beating on their board. Go back a bit n take a look.
Not a great trade for Habs but let's not say the fans are gleeful about him as a player. Quit the opposite when I looked at their board and went back from playoffs to reg season. He has left much to be desired from the faithful as the superstar D many on here think he is.

Yeah, there were a lot of complaints in the Isles series about Serge being a giveaway machine. He always raises his game against us though.

Hopefully, we get to see Niku in a game soon. Right now, I would say Wideman has the inside track for the #6 spot, as a PP specialist.

Niku might wind up on waivers and start in Laval.
 

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Chiarot for a first round pick? He's 30, and not even a top pairing defenseman. I can see Chiarot getting a 3rd rounder in return but 1st is too steep.

Maybe not in Winnipeg but in MTL yes, he was a 1st pairing the last 2 years. He was also playing against the other team top line in the last playoff on our way to the SCF.
 

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I don't hate him. I refer to him as an Idiot Savant because moments of his lunacy and are sometimes followed by moments of illumination. But in the long run, Bergevin's mistakes have outweighed his successes. And most importantly, by the most objective of all standards, the team's winning record under Bergevin's management has been a failure.

I think most here would agree that if the Canadiens had lost game 5 to the Leafs, Bergevin's tenure with this fabled franchise would have come to an end. The team's most unusual and unexpected playoff run had many consequences, the least of which, was salvaging Bergevin's job.
That hatred you have for MB is really not worth it dude, I don’t know what he did to you but grudges get you nowhere
 

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Jets fan coming in peace.

Niku's time to shine was 2019-21, when the Jets lost Byfuglien. Trouba, Chiarot, and Myers in a short period of time, depleting the team of good blueliners. Niku had one really good season in 2017-18 in the AHL and unfortunately has not really progressed past that point. In 2019-20 a spot was his for the taking on the Jets, and sadly as good as Niku is on offense, he lacks what it takes to be in the regular lineup.

I wish him luck in Montreal. Chiarot, from all that I heard has done well. Maybe this is the spark that Niku needs in his career, to break out.
From what you've heard? We swept you guys, weren't you watching? JK
 

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Niku showed flashes of brilliance early in his initial call ups with Winnipeg but unfortunately he has not improved since. Don't get your hopes up. Another bottom dweller
 

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