Proposal: Habs moving a D?

[dgibb10]

Well you obviously wouldn't be getting him to play at LD lol

He wouldn't be playing RD either with Nemec Marino and Hamilton

Hughes, Siegenthaler, Bahl, Hamilton, Nemec, Marino. That is 6 guys.

NJD should be looking to add a 2LD. If they do that would make 7 guys.

And in that case, Barron hits waivers.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

He wouldn't be playing RD either with Nemec Marino and Hamilton

Hughes, Siegenthaler, Bahl, Hamilton, Nemec, Marino. That is 6 guys.

NJD should be looking to add a 2LD. If they do that would make 7 guys.

And in that case, Barron hits waivers.

Fair enough, forgot about Dougie since he's been out so long. Not a great fit then, maybe Detroit or Winnipeg with the others would make more sense.

 

[dgibb10]

Fair enough, forgot about Dougie since he's been out so long. Not a great fit then, maybe Detroit or Winnipeg with the others would make more sense.

NJD also has no business taking on another young dman to develop while they try and compete.

Luke, Nemec, and to an extent Bahl is enough kids trying to get experience at one time

If we opt for a 7th Dman caliber target it should be a veteran like Forbort for example.

 

[Guess]

Barron will get us a high 2nd or equivalent player, he hasn't lost any deal besides the Lehkonen one so I have faith.

Harris is likely also available.

 

[bernmeister]

Barron will get us a high 2nd or equivalent player, he hasn't lost any deal besides the Lehkonen one so I have faith.

Harris is likely also available.

not seeing that due to increase in cap hit coming, lack of ability to send down

 

[bernmeister]

Again. Why would Habs trade Barron, a 22 YO for a 30yo 4th liner?

If Habs are to trade Barron for a F itll be for a 22YO F with top6 potential, not a over the top 30YO 4th.liner

Again, b'c only real push to submit offer is b'c he is a righty.
I mean, the kid is not a piece of garbage and IMO he has potential upside,
which need not be entirely dismissed, but
he was a very late 1st
and is now worth less due to no more elc status and inability to send down w/o waivers

Vesey is a known quality, productive, and on a ridiculous $ #.
Wenn is a freebie, if he can be included, as to getting dibs on him. He is a throw in.

I see your call on what Habs should accept as similarly young F, but I am not seeing peeps here killing themselves to suggest anyone that fits the bill.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Again, b'c only real push to submit offer is b'c he is a righty.
I mean, the kid is not a piece of garbage and IMO he has potential upside,
which need not be entirely dismissed, but
he was a very late 1st
and is now worth less due to no more elc status and inability to send down w/o waivers

Vesey is a known quality, productive, and on a ridiculous $ #.
Wenn is a freebie, if he can be included, as to getting dibs on him. He is a throw in.

I see your call on what Habs should accept as similarly young F, but I am not seeing peeps here killing themselves to suggest anyone that fits the bill.

Come on bern

 

[bud12]

Habs have no need of Vesey or Wennberg. Next one!!!

 

[HuGo Sham]

Again, b'c only real push to submit offer is b'c he is a righty.
I mean, the kid is not a piece of garbage and IMO he has potential upside,
which need not be entirely dismissed, but
he was a very late 1st
and is now worth less due to no more elc status and inability to send down w/o waivers

Vesey is a known quality, productive, and on a ridiculous $ #.
Wenn is a freebie, if he can be included, as to getting dibs on him. He is a throw in.

I see your call on what Habs should accept as similarly young F, but I am not seeing peeps here killing themselves to suggest anyone that fits the bill.

Vesey is so much quality, he's 31, hasn't scored more than 13 goals in 5 years and is on his 5th team. Bern, you get mad at the insults, but maybe if you didn't make offers that treat fans of other teams like they're f***ing idiots who were born yesterday.
Montreal has enough Veseys

 

[CapSpace]

WPG 1st + Barron or Harris

Alex Holtz

Nobody is gonna give up a 1st for Holtz and his 0.3 ppg.

 

[wetcoast]

I don't know. Holtz is soft. Probably wait on it.

If Holtz played Luke March and and had the same Holtz skill set he wouldn't be available right?

 

[dirtydanglez]

Nobody is gonna give up a 1st for Holtz and his 0.3 ppg.

hughes gave up a 1st+2nd for newhook. a difference of 2 pts.

 

[dgibb10]

Nobody is gonna give up a 1st for Holtz and his 0.3 ppg.

Surely montreal would never

Cough *Kirby Dach* Cough
Cough *alex newhook* Cough

hughes gave up a 1st+2nd for newhook. a difference of 2 pts.

Kirby Dach 18 points 5v5 playing with Alex Debrincat and Patrick Kane: flirting
Alex Holtz 26 points 5v5 playing with Chris Tierney and Tomas Nosek: Harassment

 

[Mersss]

Again, b'c only real push to submit offer is b'c he is a righty.
I mean, the kid is not a piece of garbage and IMO he has potential upside,
which need not be entirely dismissed, but
he was a very late 1st
and is now worth less due to no more elc status and inability to send down w/o waivers

Vesey is a known quality, productive, and on a ridiculous $ #.
Wenn is a freebie, if he can be included, as to getting dibs on him. He is a throw in.

I see your call on what Habs should accept as similarly young F, but I am not seeing peeps here killing themselves to suggest anyone that fits the bill.

And if we want a Vesey type of F we can sign one on July 1st for free

If R's want Barron. They need to send a similar age F with Top6 potential.

So unless thats whay you re sending stop.offerinf your old players for young gunz. We do not want them, we.donot.need them, we have enough dead wood

 

[Xirik]

And if we want a Vesey type of F we can sign one on July 1st for free

If R's want Barron. They need to send a similar age F with Top6 potential.

So unless thats whay you re sending stop.offerinf your old players for young gunz. We do not want them, we.donot.need them, we have enough dead wood

by top 6 potential you mean "a player that has potential to be top 6 but probably won't hit it" be it from injuries or not the right fit for the current team?

I doubt the Habs could get a more guaranteed top 6 potential forward with Barron.

 

[dgibb10]

by top 6 potential you mean "a player that has potential to be top 6 but probably won't hit it" be it from injuries or not the right fit for the current team?

I doubt the Habs could get a more guaranteed top 6 potential forward with Barron.

Like a Graeme Clarke type I assume is what they'd be referring to

 

[Lockin17]

I see the Sharks as a good partner in this, Struble could be a good fit over there, so is Barron.
Their D prospect pool is sad, and they will draft a other Forwards this year.

Guess it's start with #42 +

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Holtz is not a possibility for Justin Barron hope this helps

Holtz is not a possibility period due to his awful skating and lack of offense. We don’t need a poor man’s Toffoli. No one does…

 

[letsgowings9999]

Struble for joe veleno

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Again, b'c only real push to submit offer is b'c he is a righty.
I mean, the kid is not a piece of garbage and IMO he has potential upside,
which need not be entirely dismissed, but
he was a very late 1st
and is now worth less due to no more elc status and inability to send down w/o waivers

Vesey is a known quality, productive, and on a ridiculous $ #.
Wenn is a freebie, if he can be included, as to getting dibs on him. He is a throw in.

I see your call on what Habs should accept as similarly young F, but I am not seeing peeps here killing themselves to suggest anyone that fits the bill.

Vesey is feces. Dime a dozen veteran with zero value. Get real Bern, no one would give anything for him.

 

[Mersss]

by top 6 potential you mean "a player that has potential to be top 6 but probably won't hit it" be it from injuries or not the right fit for the current team?

I doubt the Habs could get a more guaranteed top 6 potential forward with Barron.

Like a guy who's beeb playing in the NHL vut hasn't established himself as a top6 yet.

Like Kakko, Krebs, Holtz, Newhook kinda player.

Not someone who's 23 and has never contributes in the NHL. Barron has shown he van be an effective NHL dman in the NHL, close to 40pts in 100nhl games. We are not going to trade him for a player that gas bot shown he can play in the NHL and be effectivw

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Struble for joe veleno

That has potential.

 

[Mersss]

I see the Sharks as a good partner in this, Struble could be a good fit over there, so is Barron.
Their D prospect pool is sad, and they will draft a other Forwards this year.

Guess it's start with #42 +

If I look at the Sharks, I'd aim at Bordeleau.

Similar age, top6 upside.

Struble for joe veleno

I do not see it.

We have
Suzuki
Dach
Newhook
Evans
Kapanen
Beck

Already in the system, Beck prob being the guu we'l.look into that 3C role. Evans as your 4C is very good and cheap. Veleno would be redundant and wouldn't help the Habs.

 

[bernmeister]

Come on bern

not particularly eloquent...

Habs have no need of Vesey or Wennberg. Next one!!!

Disagree, might be lower end, but still better than some of the drek on yr roster.
That said, fine.
Go back to fantasy land where you think Barron is still worth a late 1st, lol.

Vesey is so much quality, he's 31, hasn't scored more than 13 goals in 5 years and is on his 5th team. Bern, you get mad at the insults, but maybe if you didn't make offers that treat fans of other teams like they're f***ing idiots who were born yesterday.
Montreal has enough Veseys

I don't agree; agree, might be lower end, but still better than some of the drek on yr roster.
And as to 5th team in 5 yrs, hey cap reality, people get moved, regardless.
Sure, higher end stuff not moved as much
and Vesey is not higher end
but neither is Barron

Don't insult me by pretending he is.
Fact I am right here is confirmed by the level of returns being offered in this thread.

And if we want a Vesey type of F we can sign one on July 1st for free

If R's want Barron. They need to send a similar age F with Top6 potential.

So unless thats whay you re sending stop.offerinf your old players for young gunz. We do not want them, we.donot.need them, we have enough dead wood

bold:
he is not worth that today.
He has upside to MAYBE command that in the future, but not now.

b'c of inability to send down w'o waivers, his value is sharply impacted
not just to Rs
any team

you want to insist on youth?
fine
Henriksson, 23, drafted 2nd round 58Oa pending rfa
and
Korczak, 21, drafted 3rd round 75Oa 1 yr elc remaining

both pivots

never let it be said bern is not generous!
TAKE 'EM BOTH

Vesey is feces. Dime a dozen veteran with zero value. Get real Bern, no one would give anything for him.

wrong
I prefer youth, but he plays well, gives effort
not a nothing burger

 

[Junohockeyfan]

wrong
I prefer youth, but he plays well, gives effort
not a nothing burger

Total dime a dozen player. He would clear waivers easily. He's a filler when you need someone at the min cap hit to play a few minutes a night.

How could you be so clueless?