Euro: Group C: Netherlands vs. Ukraine, 6/13/2021

[Live in the Now]

All of the Netherlands games are in Amsterdam. This is another case of an advantage I find unfair, as with all of these situations (just pick a country and have the tournament there), but the point I'm trying to make is that the Netherlands aren't a team that's so good they're immune to having bad results at home. The group is in their favor, that's the real advantage here. They're the best team in the group even though they have the worst manager. They're missing their best player but it probably won't be a huge factor in group play.

Ukraine has some quality but the difference in talent is pretty steep. They did also win their group and it wasn't some weak group. Portugal and Serbia were in it. That was quite a while ago now. Konoplyanka is also not here, so someone needs to step up. There also may be some diplomatic story crap after this game because they have an outline of Ukraine on their shirt and Crimea is still in that outline. If they win I feel like a lot of people will try to make a story out of it.

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[Bondurant]

Oranje is my team but I agree with how Euro 2020 has been staged. One team always has an advantage as the host nation but not a fan of picking the traditional powerhouse nations to host all of the groups. Looking forward to the games regardless.

 

[Ajacied]

About 85% of the Dutch people have no faith in de Boer. There are even fans who won’t watch due to his atrocious 5-3-2 and even worse tactical mind. Really the most incapable coach out there.

I’ve never cared less for a tournament, to be honest. Just hoping at least Gravenberch or Timber can showcase their talent somewhat.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

About 85% of the Dutch people have no faith in de Boer. There are even fans who won’t watch due to his atrocious 5-3-2 and even worse tactical mind. Really the most incapable coach out there.

I’ve never cared less for a tournament, to be honest. Just hoping at least Gravenberch or Timber can showcase their talent somewhat.

Both excellent players but ya there coach is off it. Sad

 

[Eye of Ra]

ukraine is better than people think

 

[YNWA14]

About 85% of the Dutch people have no faith in de Boer. There are even fans who won’t watch due to his atrocious 5-3-2 and even worse tactical mind. Really the most incapable coach out there.

I’ve never cared less for a tournament, to be honest. Just hoping at least Gravenberch or Timber can showcase their talent somewhat.

Yeah I mean the hiring of de Boer showed such a huge lack of awareness. How these recycled coaches keep getting jobs when there are plenty of progressive, interesting coaches out there baffles me aside from the whole old boys club feel. He probably wouldn't have taken it but would have loved to see Pep Lijnders get the offer.

I just hope they make it past the group stage at this point. Ukraine is a good team.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Go Dutch!

 

[robertmac43]

Looking forward to this one - Ukraine can play some good stuff on their day.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Looking forward to this one - Ukraine can play some good stuff on their day.

The Dutch are playing with 5 at the back. Yes 5

 

[Live in the Now]

Sheva time

 

[robertmac43]

The Dutch are playing with 5 at the back. Yes 5

Ewwww that's gross.

@YNWA14 Thoughts on Tumber? Is he highly regarded in the Dutch circles?

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Ewwww that's gross.

@YNWA14 Thoughts on Tumber? Is he highly regarded in the Dutch circles?

Timber you should ask the guy who drafted him.

 

[Live in the Now]

Very funny to me Stekelenburg is still their keeper. Guy is OLD.

 

[Blender]

The Dutch are playing with 5 at the back. Yes 5

So much confidence for a game against Ukraine.

 

[GKJ]

Very funny to me Stekelenburg is still their keeper. Guy is OLD.

A high-level country I feel like should be able to produce a top keeper who is younger than 38.

Probably not fair that they get to host their own group, but they also don't get to host major tournaments, no?

 

[Blender]

A high-level country I feel like should be able to produce a top keeper who is younger than 38.

Probably not fair that they get to host their own group, but they also don't get to host major tournaments, no?

I wouldn't call them a high-level country at the moment. Their domestic league is still a quality league, but their national team development has fallen on hard times.

 

[Live in the Now]

I wouldn't call them a high-level country at the moment. Their domestic league is still a quality league, but their national team development has fallen on hard times.

If they had all their players and a decent manager I would think they could make the SF though. Instead they won't.

 

[IceColdOx]

Love those Ukraine kits.

 

[Blender]

If they had all their players and a decent manager I would think they could make the SF though. Instead they won't.

They have no depth really though. They still have some top end players of course, but are they in the top 10 in Europe at the moment? I'm not confident that they are.

 

[GKJ]

I wouldn't call them a high-level country at the moment. Their domestic league is still a quality league, but their national team development has fallen on hard times.

But their standard is such of that as a top-level. Even if they're not, they think they should be.

They were the country I used to follow closest before they started missing tournaments.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

So much confidence for a game against Ukraine.

That’s how they will line up through the tournament if you go by their set up with this manager.

 

[Live in the Now]

They have no depth really though. They still have some top end players of course, but are they in the top 10 in Europe at the moment? I'm not confident that they are.

No, not considering depth they aren't that good. They have no depth in any attacking positions. But their first team? Yeah they are. They just can't withstand basically any injury except at CM. Cillesen had corona problems and van Dijk got hurt and look how much it hurt their team.

 

[Blender]

This TSN piece on Frank de Boer is pretty embarrassing.

 

[Elias40]

Ukraine has the quality not to lose today. The Netherlands has a better attack, but the Ukrainians under Shevchenko play patiently and the have a chance score to goal.

The good news is that Zabarny will play and Kryvtsov will be on the bench. The bad news is that there will be no Trubin in the net, but Buscan.

Ukraine will not lose today.
1-1.

 

[Live in the Now]

There are way more people in these places than the governments claimed they would allow. I'm not complaining because I'm glad. But there are.