Fjordy
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Was he allowed to work again? Not sure Adams will look his way.
Confirmed with Link: Granato Out (Jason Christie & Matt Smith also let go, Ellis being reassigned)
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Ownership hand-picked Kevyn primarily because he does what they say. He’s also done a remarkable job (along with Jerry) getting very solid value out of the draft and has made some good trades along the way, he never gets fleeced even if he hasn’t pulled off a Darth Regier level move yet in his tenure.
The GM brings in the players. The coach molds the players into the team he and the GM envision. From there it’s up to the players to actually get it done out there and for a lot of reasons, that isn’t happening yet. You can see a lot of potential in the roster and the pipeline and that’s a job well done by KA to this point in my opinion. Someone had to take the fall for the season result and that’s Donny at the end of the day. Kevyn isn’t about to fire himself and neither are the Pegulas. He gets at least one more shot to get the coaching hire right.
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Sabres fire coach Don Granato after disappointing season - Buffalo Hockey Beat
General manager Kevyn Adams will address the media at 3 p.m. in KeyBank Center.
www.buffalohockeybeat.com
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Imagine having a job you are terrible at. Like, obviously unqualified for the role. And you can't hide your mistakes. Everyone in the company sees them on a regular basis. You somehow keep this job for three years.
Then one day, your boss is fired. In no small part because of your incompetence. Again, everyone in the company knows this.
Instead of firing you, your company just...demotes you to the stock room. So you still have to see all these people who watched you flail about randomly for three years on a daily basis.
At that point...wouldn't you rather just be fired?
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So it will cost less to eat the two years of Donny’s deal than it did to eat what was left of Krueger’s.
Just a fun little factoid.
Fjordy
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Come on, coaches always come to the NHL and take on different teams, especially since Buffalo’s roster isn’t that bad now and mostly needs to improve bottom 6 and toughness. Coaches usually don't want to be out of work for long and this is a closed league with limited spots, who knows when the next coach will get a job.
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Not Appert or Lindy behind the bench. Please god no.
I’ve been saying this for so many years now. Just send over the contract Terry, you don’t even have to find me office space.
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Not getting fleeced in trades and building a winning team are not the same tings.
Exhibit A: Darth Regier.
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While there is a zero point zero percent chance Matt Ellis is the next coach…thinking about it does open up the ultimate “actually, I’m being promoted” Office Space moment in sports history
Jim Bob
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Lazerus: Does Joel Quenneville deserve a second chance? Does it even matter?
Joel Quenneville's attempt to get another NHL head coaching job conjures complicated feelings.
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He would need to get approval from the NHL first. Given how much value that Pegula puts on character, I doubt they go that route.
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I just became really annoyed that this didn’t happen in January at the latest. Believing they wouldn’t do it at all kept that annoyance at bay until this moment.
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He coached one of the best Sabres teams that was also one of the best in the NHL in 05-06 to 06-07. Unfortunately the previous owner’s contract policy and meddling of Larry Quinn destroyed that team.
I don’t know if Lindy is the right idea. But lets not pretend he didn’t do great before many of his weapons were taken away.
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Fjordy
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The teams performance that season was IN SPITE of Adams.
What offseason moves did Kevyn make that spurred the 16 point improvement? Oh, that's right. None. He spent to below the cap floor and had to trade for Ben Bishop in order to be cap compliant.
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I loved Lindy in the 90s. I'm not so sure he's the same coach as then.
Recently, he's had one good season with NJ and run out of town. Nobody called NJ the hardest working team in hockey and aside from their quick, skilled forwards, there was nothing scary about them. They added an underachieving Meier but still no physicality. Unless we get 99 Lindy, I wouldn't feel happy about it.
So much talk in the last few years about the game moving towards speed and skill and there's a lot of truth to that but at the same time you need that physical aspect to win, especially in the playoffs. Getting to the inside, keeping the other team to the outside, finishing plays, overpowering puck handlers... It's not the neanderthal physical play of the past but smart, intense physicality that has true impact on Xs and Os which wins games in reg and post season. Ruff may still have that in him but I don't know if we've seen it in the past 20 years.
I'm wrong a lot about this team but not as often about hockey so who knows.
Recently, he's had one good season with NJ and run out of town. Nobody called NJ the hardest working team in hockey and aside from their quick, skilled forwards, there was nothing scary about them. They added an underachieving Meier but still no physicality. Unless we get 99 Lindy, I wouldn't feel happy about it.
So much talk in the last few years about the game moving towards speed and skill and there's a lot of truth to that but at the same time you need that physical aspect to win, especially in the playoffs. Getting to the inside, keeping the other team to the outside, finishing plays, overpowering puck handlers... It's not the neanderthal physical play of the past but smart, intense physicality that has true impact on Xs and Os which wins games in reg and post season. Ruff may still have that in him but I don't know if we've seen it in the past 20 years.
I'm wrong a lot about this team but not as often about hockey so who knows.
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Well, at the very least it does show the players that if you suck at your job- you may be canned. This is very much on the players shoulders as well. They were content coasting through much of the season, and they lost a coach they liked because of it (and other variables, of course).
Glad he's gone. I feel for the man, but this business is cutthroat, and the negative results were there for the world to see.
I wish I could say I am optimistic about the next coaching hire, but given how trash the hires have been over the last decade +...I'm not all that optimistic.
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Rink Fries: Questions remain on Arizona's hockey future with Coyotes on move
Until we see the specifics of the NHL’s agreement with Alex Meruelo and his window of five years to bring hockey back to Arizona all we’ll have is questions about hockey returning to the desert.
"...if the Buffalo Sabres do make a coaching change, I wonder if they turn to Rochester Americans head coach Seth Appert along with a veteran assistant."
Marek officially putting himself on the map as one of the few Sabres insiders. Looking forward to TJMS today
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Jim Bob
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Seth Appert would be very on brand for this organization - one step forward, two steps back.Rink Fries: Questions remain on Arizona's hockey future with Coyotes on move
Until we see the specifics of the NHL’s agreement with Alex Meruelo and his window of five years to bring hockey back to Arizona all we’ll have is questions about hockey returning to the desert.www.sportsnet.ca
"...if the Buffalo Sabres do make a coaching change, I wonder if they turn to Rochester Americans head coach Seth Appert along with a veteran assistant."
Marek officially putting himself on the map as one of the few Sabres insiders. Looking forward to TJMS today
Going with a fourth straight first time NHL head coach would be the most on-brand moment of the Pegula ownership.
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