Grade this off season so far
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EspenK
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- Sep 25, 2011
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Great job on trades, meh on FA's, some good contracts, some perhaps a bit rich &a bit long.
I'd say pretty good draft because I'm not sold on Johnson. Had we added Eklund I would have said great. (And if we could have...nevermind
). Definitely helped build the prospect pool.
I'd say pretty good draft because I'm not sold on Johnson. Had we added Eklund I would have said great. (And if we could have...nevermind
). Definitely helped build the prospect pool.
Fro
Cheatin on CBJ w TBL
Were no real high end FAs I thought we would realistically be in on...happy with moves we made, trades we had to do...lost nothing in ED
Still lots going on that can improve the team
Still lots going on that can improve the team
CBJWerenski8
Formerly CBJWennberg10 (RIP Kivi)
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So far it's a B+ from me.
The two big assignments are the Jones trade and the draft. And both earn high marks. Really how Jarmo got so much when the Hawks were the only team willing to pay him his ask, that's remarkable. A+. The draft grade is obviously subject to change but so far so good. I love the Sillinger pick especially. The prospect pool is suddenly high end and it is a good feeling.
The next biggest thing is the Voracek acquisition, and I love the trade. I was hoping we would take him for free as he would be the best playmaker on our team, and we actually ended up trading our worst contract to get him. That's an A+ from me.
As I'm sure you've all heard, I don't like the 5 years for Jenner and 4 for Kuraly, I think we would be better off without those commitments. But that's also just not as important. If we have to some buy-outs that's not as bad as say, drafting the wrong guy, or not getting a good return on Jones. Beyond that I wish the Jackets picked up Pius Suter. And gotten a guy like Hakanpaa to help insulate at RD, we still need someone to do that job. And I wish we could find a Korpisalo deal. So there's room for the grade to go up a bit if Jarmo gets more work done.
The two big assignments are the Jones trade and the draft. And both earn high marks. Really how Jarmo got so much when the Hawks were the only team willing to pay him his ask, that's remarkable. A+. The draft grade is obviously subject to change but so far so good. I love the Sillinger pick especially. The prospect pool is suddenly high end and it is a good feeling.
The next biggest thing is the Voracek acquisition, and I love the trade. I was hoping we would take him for free as he would be the best playmaker on our team, and we actually ended up trading our worst contract to get him. That's an A+ from me.
As I'm sure you've all heard, I don't like the 5 years for Jenner and 4 for Kuraly, I think we would be better off without those commitments. But that's also just not as important. If we have to some buy-outs that's not as bad as say, drafting the wrong guy, or not getting a good return on Jones. Beyond that I wish the Jackets picked up Pius Suter. And gotten a guy like Hakanpaa to help insulate at RD, we still need someone to do that job. And I wish we could find a Korpisalo deal. So there's room for the grade to go up a bit if Jarmo gets more work done.
EspenK
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Curious as to all the noticeably improved votes? Lost our top D--man, signed a 4th liner and a D prospect as free agents, and traded Cam for Jake. to me that ain't noticeable improvement. Guess it is the Jackets fan tendency to overvalue moves made and always expect the best.
Not Wendell do the posters here have a profile? My guess is lots have whatever Charlie Brown has vis a vis Lucy and the football.
The draft I think improved the prospect pool a lot. But those guys are all TBD's in reality.
Not Wendell do the posters here have a profile? My guess is lots have whatever Charlie Brown has vis a vis Lucy and the football.
The draft I think improved the prospect pool a lot. But those guys are all TBD's in reality.
If you didn't expect the team to be rebuilding then yeah I'm sure you might give a lower grade. But I've already factored that into giving Jarmo a rotten grade for last year. This is a new offseason and we're taking for granted that Jones is leaving. Our only metric is how much in futures you get for him.
You'll see some noticeable improvement when Jake takes the ice. He fills a much bigger need for us.
KJ Dangler
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Knowing context .. that we were going into a rebuild , not a reload … A+ from me . Prospect pool went from decimated , to a lot of really good talent in one draft .
Entering a rebuild , didn’t expect the cbj to be players on any substantial free agents . I think with Kuraly they have a really good line with Boone and Robinson, and Voracek is a huge upgrade over cam .
Jarmo got about all you could ever hope for in his return for Jones … Boquist , Sillinger , and a 1st next yr .
Team as structured , can let it rip and know what we have with Texier , Foudy.
Domi, Nyquist and maybe Werenski will be moved at deadline . All in all , amazing job in a short period of time
Entering a rebuild , didn’t expect the cbj to be players on any substantial free agents . I think with Kuraly they have a really good line with Boone and Robinson, and Voracek is a huge upgrade over cam .
Jarmo got about all you could ever hope for in his return for Jones … Boquist , Sillinger , and a 1st next yr .
Team as structured , can let it rip and know what we have with Texier , Foudy.
Domi, Nyquist and maybe Werenski will be moved at deadline . All in all , amazing job in a short period of time
Johansen2Foligno
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- Jan 2, 2015
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No complaints from me. I will leave that to everyone else on here.
Byrral
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Solid job. If things go as predicted this season the job will be continued next offseason. Then they will be set up to start adding a young player or three over the next several seasons as long as Marchenko and Voronkov don't sign extensions in Russia.
ThisIsMyAlibi
Fantilli&Werenski&Gaudreau&Laine&Johnson&Jiricek
A.
Had to tear it all down and they did.
cant judge the draft picks for a while so that’s an incomplete.
the Jones trade was just robbery.
Had to tear it all down and they did.
cant judge the draft picks for a while so that’s an incomplete.
the Jones trade was just robbery.
Long Live Lyle
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MoeBartoli
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- Jan 12, 2011
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B, based on the context of where we are in this whole process. My B is driven by draft picks which on paper seem good (although time will reveal the final grade) and the haul for Jones. As stated before, I don’t like the Kuraly signing and am meh on the return of Bayruether.
MoeBartoli
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Agree Pius Suter would have been a nice pick up.
Michael Smitley
Casual Fan
I chose B because the Werenski contract extension may have finally stopped the bleeding. I had my suspicion he fired Brisson because he was bashing Columbus and Z was interested in staying
Fred Glover
Chief of Sinners
Solid B…
Draft seemed to end up great. I would have liked to see more picks acquired using our cap space but I’m not surprised Jarmo is being picky. Jones deal I wanted Reichel but cannot complain much with what we got in return. ZW signing was a pleasant surprise and glad we got that out of the way.
Draft seemed to end up great. I would have liked to see more picks acquired using our cap space but I’m not surprised Jarmo is being picky. Jones deal I wanted Reichel but cannot complain much with what we got in return. ZW signing was a pleasant surprise and glad we got that out of the way.
Solid A- so far IMO. Came into the offseason with a lot of difficult decisions to make and nearly all of them have been the right ones, some more than "correct".
The team won't be so bad that it will compete with the worst yet the cupboards are quickly being restocked. Clear shift in identity as the post-Torts era dawns. Retaining Z was huge. Only negative to me so far was the Cam-Jake swap... just why? Voracek is the better player but this squad won't be competing for the playoffs for the next season or two the soonest. No reason to take a substantially higher cap hit and maybe deny us some important flexibility if the youth impresses sooner than expected, while showing we'll ship loyal players for questionable marginal improvement.
The team won't be so bad that it will compete with the worst yet the cupboards are quickly being restocked. Clear shift in identity as the post-Torts era dawns. Retaining Z was huge. Only negative to me so far was the Cam-Jake swap... just why? Voracek is the better player but this squad won't be competing for the playoffs for the next season or two the soonest. No reason to take a substantially higher cap hit and maybe deny us some important flexibility if the youth impresses sooner than expected, while showing we'll ship loyal players for questionable marginal improvement.
NotTooWideArena
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I think the return of Davidson has been a real help.
A lot depends on the coaching change - if Larsen can get more production from our young guys, this off-season is going to be viewed as a watershed for this franchise. If not, in a few years all those promising draft picks may melt away like a spring snow and we will be starting over again.
The Werenski signing is huge, and almost entirely positive.
Given the cards he was dealt, Jarmo did well in the Jones trade.
Nothing against Atkinson, who gave us a lot of good years, but I think Voracek will prove to be a real upgrade.
I don't expect much from Bean, and would have liked to see a stay-at-home right-shot d-man added. Kuraly has to help on faceoffs.
Nothing resolved in the goalie situation, but maybe the Kivlenieks tragedy complicated that. There is no huge rush here.
This team is going to have a roster full of questions next season, but I expect at least some of the answers to be positive!
I call it a B+.
A lot depends on the coaching change - if Larsen can get more production from our young guys, this off-season is going to be viewed as a watershed for this franchise. If not, in a few years all those promising draft picks may melt away like a spring snow and we will be starting over again.
The Werenski signing is huge, and almost entirely positive.
Given the cards he was dealt, Jarmo did well in the Jones trade.
Nothing against Atkinson, who gave us a lot of good years, but I think Voracek will prove to be a real upgrade.
I don't expect much from Bean, and would have liked to see a stay-at-home right-shot d-man added. Kuraly has to help on faceoffs.
Nothing resolved in the goalie situation, but maybe the Kivlenieks tragedy complicated that. There is no huge rush here.
This team is going to have a roster full of questions next season, but I expect at least some of the answers to be positive!
I call it a B+.
Solid to high end B (B to B+).
Thrilled with the draft and Zach staying.
Very happy with Jones return, would have been "thrilled" if there was a high end prospect included but still very good return.
Free Agency has left some to be desired.
Thrilled with the draft and Zach staying.
Very happy with Jones return, would have been "thrilled" if there was a high end prospect included but still very good return.
Free Agency has left some to be desired.
B (so far)
Pros:
Cons:
TBD:
Pros:
- Excellent draft
- Good trades
- Good RFA deals, and overpaying Werenski was a necessary so it doesnt affect my grading negatively.
Cons:
- Questionable UFA deals for weak players.
TBD:
- Get a good deal for Korpi I'll make it a B+.
- Get a long-term 1C I'll make it a A-.
- Do both I'll give the A.
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