Grabovski vs. Bozak - A Comparison

[Vinsanity89]

Many Grabo fans were up in arms about the Leafs resigning Bozak to a 4.2 million per contract and letting Grabo go to free up room for David Clarkson.

Let's do a quick comparison:

Grabo has predominantly played with Ovechkin this year. Bozak has played with Kessel.

Grabo = 49 GP 12 G 21 A 33 PTS (0 points in last 6 GP)
Bozak = 33 GP 11 G 18 A 29 PTS

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[Durrr]

 

[Dr Turk]

With the amount of Grabo>Bozak *****ing threads we used to have on here I think a thread like this is completely warranted. Have noticed all the Bozak haters have gone into hiding recently,

 

[Revolt]

Bozak has always been more valuable to us.

 

[Vexed]

Bozak has always been more valuable to us.

This

This is the most accurate of answers

 

[Neil Hamburger]

I`m just glad we didn`t "upgrade" to Weiss.

 

[Duke Silver]

Many Grabo fans were up in arms about the Leafs resigning Bozak to a 4.2 million per contract and letting Grabo go to free up room for David Clarkson.

Let's do a quick comparison:

Grabo has predominantly played with Ovechkin this year. Bozak has played with Kessel.

Grabo = 49 GP 12 G 21 A 33 PTS (0 points in last 6 GP)
Bozak = 33 GP 11 G 18 A 29 PTS

COMPLETELY false.

Here are Grabovski's most frequent linemates at even strength:

01. Troy Brouwer - 269:45
02. Eric Fehr - 266:09
03. Jason Chimera - 223:17
04. Joel Ward - 204:04
05. Alex Ovechkin - 139:46
06. Brooks Laich - 123:59

 

[BonMorrison]

He played six games with Ovechkin and it was hilarious fail. Beginning of the season he centred Chimera and Ward before onto Fehr and Brouwer.

 

[goonx]

Guys.... they don't even play the same style of game.

Bozak is way more defensive and a better puck possession type of player. Wins FO (most of the the time) and creates turnovers.
Bozak also plays with the best wingers in the game.

Grabo is a great skating, puck moving guy but he wasn't very good at FOs and definitely not as defensive. He also doesn't really use his line-mates as often as he should

Bozak isn't as offensively gifted as grabo but he brings some defensive abilities that complement kessel and JVR. Grabo, while a good player, doesn't fit the teams needs.

It's saying ROR vs Kadri.

 

[leafstilldeath*]

Many Grabo fans were up in arms about the Leafs resigning Bozak to a 4.2 million per contract and letting Grabo go to free up room for David Clarkson.

Let's do a quick comparison:

Grabo has predominantly played with Ovechkin this year. Bozak has played with Kessel.

Grabo = 49 GP 12 G 21 A 33 PTS (0 points in last 6 GP)
Bozak = 33 GP 11 G 18 A 29 PTS

Overall

Grabo - three 20 goal seasons without playing with elite wingers
Bozo - zero 20 goal season playing with elite wingers

Grabo - two 50 points season without playing with elite wingers
Bozo - zero 50 points season playing with elite wingers

Grabo - mostly playing 2nd unit PP
Bozo - mostly playing 1st unit PP


Pushing an agenda based on one season that is still in progress and hasn't finished yet is foolish.

Bozak has been playing well this season, but before this season he was absolute crap. For example, the chance he buried yesterday would be either fanned on or would miss the net or would be a weak shot or the pass would not be collected properly prior seasons.

It would be better to wait for at least 2 seasons to compare bozak and grabo. Throwing out meaningless stats on a small sample is worthy.

 

[bunjay]

With the amount of Grabo>Bozak *****ing threads we used to have on here I think a thread like this is completely warranted. Have noticed all the Bozak haters have gone into hiding recently,

Considering critics to be "haters who have gone into hiding" is a grade-school level mentality.

People can criticize a player, and then stop criticizing them when they play significantly better than they ever have before, without being "haters" who run and hide. Bozak over the years has been criticized for having a knack for flubbing glorious open-net opportunities, for being too predictable with the puck (pass to kessel), for not being a creative playmaker. Mostly he's been criticized as being someone asked to play above his talent level, which isn't even really a criticism of Bozak himself.

Suddenly he's just turned it on and it's like he's a completely different player out there. This is his best hockey since his first 20 games in the league, and it's WAY better than that. There is nothing about which to criticize Bozak at the moment. So what you so childishly describe as "haters going into hiding" is, to someone who kept maturing after junior highschool, reasonable criticism that no longer applies.

Can Bozak keep it up? I have my doubts, just because he's playing so much better than usual. But who knows.

 

[asdf]

COMPLETELY false.

Here are Grabovski's most frequent linemates at even strength:

01. Troy Brouwer - 269:45
02. Eric Fehr - 266:09
03. Jason Chimera - 223:17
04. Joel Ward - 204:04
05. Alex Ovechkin - 139:46
06. Brooks Laich - 123:59

Where did you get this information from?

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

I think you'll find more people concerned with handing Grabovski's money to Clarkson and giving him franchise player term.

Their concerns were justifiable.

 

[TheProspector]

It wasn't Bozak vs Grabovski. No Clarkson, we get to keep Grabovski. Then our #1, #2, #3 centres are Bozak, Kadri, Grabovski. This is the full season pace those three players are on par for:

#1: Bozak: 27G + 44A = 72P
#2: Kadri: 23G + 39A = 62P
#3: Grabovski: 20G + 35A = 55P

That ain't bad at all. There is no doubt we'd be better off had we kept him.

 

[BonMorrison]

It wasn't Bozak vs Grabovski. No Clarkson, we get to keep Grabovski. Then our #1, #2, #3 centres are Bozak, Kadri, Grabovski. This is the full season pace those three players are on par for:

#1: Bozak: 27G + 44A = 72P
#2: Kadri: 23G + 39A = 62P
#3: Grabovski: 20G + 35A = 55P

That ain't bad at all. There is no doubt we'd be better off had we kept him.

Uh ... Bolland?

 

[diceman934]

Kadri took Grabo's spot.....and I would always choose Bozak over Grabo for what each brings to the team.

 

[Pi]

He played six games with Ovechkin and it was hilarious fail. Beginning of the season he centred Chimera and Ward before onto Fehr and Brouwer.

Doesn't that just say it all?

Grabovski failed with Kessel and Ovechkin. He's needs the puck on his stick more than his linemates to succeed and that just isn't going to happen if Kessel or Ovie are on your line.

 

[Cor]

Kadri and Bolland are responsible for Grabo leaving. Not Clarkson or Bozak.

Anyway, Bozak > Grabo. Bozak is playing at a higher pace offensively and brings way more besides scoring.

 

[New Liskeard]

It wasn't Bozak vs Grabovski. No Clarkson, we get to keep Grabovski. Then our #1, #2, #3 centres are Bozak, Kadri, Grabovski. This is the full season pace those three players are on par for:

#1: Bozak: 27G + 44A = 72P
#2: Kadri: 23G + 39A = 62P
#3: Grabovski: 20G + 35A = 55P

That ain't bad at all. There is no doubt we'd be better off had we kept him.

And who exactly is the third line center who plays the shut down role? We know its not Bozak, because Grabo and Kadri don't produce on the top line. The Leafs have always had a top 6 bottom 6 mentality, and not all of the three centers were going to stay. They let the right one go.

 

[AustonMitchWilly]

Overall

Grabo - three 20 goal seasons without playing with elite wingers
Bozo - zero 20 goal season playing with elite wingers

Grabo - two 50 points season without playing with elite wingers
Bozo - zero 50 points season playing with elite wingers

Grabo - mostly playing 2nd unit PP
Bozo - mostly playing 1st unit PP


Pushing an agenda based on one season that is still in progress and hasn't finished yet is foolish.

Bozak has been playing well this season, but before this season he was absolute crap. For example, the chance he buried yesterday would be either fanned on or would miss the net or would be a weak shot or the pass would not be collected properly prior seasons.

It would be better to wait for at least 2 seasons to compare bozak and grabo. Throwing out meaningless stats on a small sample is worthy.

Grabo: 30 Years old

Bozak 27.



I'll take Bozie at 27 and his and Phil's Chemistry plz thanks

 

[leafstilldeath*]

Grabo: 30 Years old

Bozak 27.



I'll take Bozie at 27 and his and Phil's Chemistry plz thanks

Thats a myth.

The real chemistry was/is: Lupul-Kessel/JVR-Kessel

Please

 

[Cor]

Thats a myth.

The real chemistry was/is: Lupul-Kessel/JVR-Kessel

Please

Go back to last season and talk to Jeffler.

The Myth is that Phil and Bozak don't have chemistry.

 

[Liferleafer]

Many Grabo fans were up in arms about the Leafs resigning Bozak to a 4.2 million per contract and letting Grabo go to free up room for David Clarkson.

Let's do a quick comparison:

Grabo has predominantly played with Ovechkin this year. Bozak has played with Kessel.

Grabo = 49 GP 12 G 21 A 33 PTS (0 points in last 6 GP)
Bozak = 33 GP 11 G 18 A 29 PTS

Well...one plays for the team I support, and one plays for Washington....guess I'll go with the one on my team?

 

[Delicious Dangles*]

1. Grabovski does not play with Ovechkin. He is in fact most often on the 3rd line, with 2nd PP time.
2. Bozak meanwhile, is getting top ice time with elite talents, and top PP time. Also, he is rested due to the injuries.
3. Bozak has looked great this season, no doubt, but it is 30ish games during one of the hottest streaks of Kessel's career. Grabovski was better for a LOT longer, and one could debate he still is.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Leafs are 9-1-1 in our last 11 games with Bozak as our #1C and Kadri coming alive as our #2C.

Both players are a major reason why.

Bozak and or Kadri(whichever one wants to choose) > Grabovksi

And both don't make 5.5 per year to accentuate the point even more.