Gost's next contract?

[Banger]

rumor is that Nikita Zaitsev is closing in on a deal for 7 years at around $4.5/year...he's 25 and in 76 games he's scored 4 goals 30 assists (34 pts) and is a -21...

contrast that with Gost who's 23, played 71 games, 7 goals, 28 assists (35 pts) and is a -21....nearly identical...do the Flyers use Toronto's lead on this and offer Gost the same deal? Does Gost take it?

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[Rebels57]

I'd be comfortable with that deal. It would likely end up being a bargain.

If we go the bridge contract route and give him say, 2 years, $3.5 million, we are probably going to be paying him $5.5-6 million on his next contract; should his recent play be an indication that last year is the norm and not the exception.

 

[Rebels57]

Also, it's "Ghost"

 

[David St Hubbins]

Take it and run!

 

[Tripod]

I easily sign him to that deal.

That wold lock him up for his 24-30 year old seasons, becoming a UFA at age 31. Let someone else sign him for bigger money for his 30 year old seasons where more injuries and declines happen.

 

[1865]

Where do I sign? Him for anything under $5m is a major weight off our minds in the future.

 

[Cyborg LeClair]

I'd sign him long term for that, and i could see him taking that deal as well. But i kind of expect a bridge deal

 

[deadhead]

I expect Ghost to bounce back offensively, but he'll always be limited defensively, he's never going to be able to play like Kimmo (who was far more polished and more stout).

If I gave him a long-term deal, I'd want it structured to make it easy to trade him in 2-3 years if Sanheim is the real thing - between the two I'll keep the 6'4 210+ D-man with similar skills.

 

[kelmitchell]

I would love to sign him 7 years 4.5 million

 

[Rebels57]

I expect Ghost to bounce back offensively, but he'll always be limited defensively, he's never going to be able to play like Kimmo (who was far more polished and more stout).

If I gave him a long-term deal, I'd want it structured to make it easy to trade him in 2-3 years if Sanheim is the real thing - between the two I'll keep the 6'4 210+ D-man with similar skills.

Didnt realize 23 year olds were finished products. News to me.

 

[Alchemy]

Didnt realize 23 year olds were finished products. News to me.

He isn't finished but its starting to be clear that physical limitations will hinder him a bit at the NHL level. He is what he is. A dynamic offensive defenseman. His defense isn't terrible by any means but its inconsistent. He has to beat players defensively by his stick and anticipation. Ghost hasn't done this consistently to be considered a good defensive player. It doesn't really matter because that will not be his role on any team he plays on and it shouldn't be.

 

[kelmitchell]

He isn't finished but its starting to be clear that physical limitations will hinder him a bit at the NHL level. He is what he is. A dynamic offensive defenseman. His defense isn't terrible by any means but its inconsistent. He has to beat players defensively by his stick and anticipation. Ghost hasn't done this consistently to be considered a good defensive player. It doesn't really matter because that will not be his role on any team he plays on and it shouldn't be.

But hes still young enough to learn to pisition himself better defensively to make up for his size and strength,like kimmo did

 

[deadhead]

At the same age Kimmo was a polished defensive player who was developing his offensive skills. Kimmo was also built much stouter and had better leverage, people tend to confuse short with small.

Ghost turned 24 this month, there limited physical growth potential, and most players peak around age 26. So what you see is probably close to what you get in terms of size and skills, his growth from now on will probably be in terms of a better understanding of the pro game.

Ghost will be a solid offensive player for 5-6 more years, but given his size, I'd be wary of extending him past 30 (he'll struggle to compensate as he slows down due to his size).

Problem for the Flyers is if Morin, Sanheim and Myers all pan out, along with Provorov, it's going to be hard to pay 5 D-men top money. So once they know what they have, I see one of the group being traded for forward quality (you pay your top 4 defensemen real money).

 

[FLYguy3911]

The problem with comparing Ghost to Zaitsev, is Ghost has a monster rookie season on his resume. If you can sign him long term to a deal under 5, I'd do it, but the more UFA years you buyout, the more expense the contract gets.

 

[Cyborg LeClair]

He isn't a finished product, but he is what he is. He's not done developing, but he won't get any better. He still has potential, but he has reached his ceiling.

Am i missing any more ways to contradict myself?

 

[whitstifier]

He isn't a finished product, but he is what he is. He's not done developing, but he won't get any better. He still has potential, but he has reached his ceiling.

Am i missing any more ways to contradict myself?

More paragraphs pls

 

[Winston Wolf]

Timonen was an NHL rookie at the same age that Ghost is now and he was always an offensive defenseman.

If you could sign Ghost to $5M or less for long term, you do it immediately. I don't know why he'd do it though, as he's a more valuable player to me than Shattenkirk and Shattenkirk is going to get paid way more than that.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Im sure his agent is going to want a bridge deal. 2 years 3 mil per probably.

 

[whitstifier]

Klingberg is probably still the best reference. I'd really like to see a long term deal get worked out.

 

[Winston Wolf]

Im sure his agent is going to want a bridge deal. 2 years 3 mil per probably.

I think that would take him to being an UFA after the contract is up.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I think that would take him to being an UFA after the contract is up.

No. 3 years would though.

 

[Winston Wolf]

No. 3 years would though.

You're right, I don't know why I was thinking 26.

 

[kelmitchell]

He isn't a finished product, but he is what he is. He's not done developing, but he won't get any better. He still has potential, but he has reached his ceiling.

Am i missing any more ways to contradict myself?

Try writing an essay thats all you're missing