ACC1224
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As a Canes fan wouldn't you have a better idea of his value?
IMO, 2m would be fair.
EDIT - Just saw they already signed him for 1.2, so yes he is worth 1.2. Odd question.
He's definitely a third pairing guy at this point. Tough but can't keep up anymore. Imploded with the rest of the team at the end of last season.
janesy12
Leafs Nation
He's worth that gamble every day of the week. 1 year deal for almost the same amount as what's costing the Leafs in a buyout year. Fantastic value for Carolina.
BonMorrison
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Seriously though. What is it about this team that always makes our ex-players end up in Carolina? 
91Stammer*
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That's a solid contract. When he came here he actually created an impact we were lacking. If not for the collapse he would have been recognized big time by Leaf fans.
The problem with the leafs is that the team is run by accountants who shuffle contracts around like monopoly cards without much regard or consideration for the players hockey value.
It's obvious that ownership has imposed a cap which is below $69 mil this season.
That means that without a true #1C or #1D they need to win by committee and outwork their opponents.
The problem is that while coach randy preaches hard work he often rewards his favourites with bigger contracts undue ice time. aka Clarkson
If players on this team were evaluated based on merit then Phaneuf and Franson would both be gone.
It's obvious that ownership has imposed a cap which is below $69 mil this season.
That means that without a true #1C or #1D they need to win by committee and outwork their opponents.
The problem is that while coach randy preaches hard work he often rewards his favourites with bigger contracts undue ice time. aka Clarkson
If players on this team were evaluated based on merit then Phaneuf and Franson would both be gone.
ACC1224
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Holymakinaw
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Seriously though. What is it about this team that always makes our ex-players end up in Carolina?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z8lS--AyBU
Mess
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Interesting outcome.
Canes trade Gleason making too much at ~ $4 mil per to the Leafs.
Leafs buyout Gleason and take a cap hit for the next 4 years in the process.
Canes resign their former player for $1.2 mil now to a contract worthy of is contributions.
Carolina was able to creatively use the Leafs to correct their own contract mistake.
Now who can Nonis trade Clarkson to and try to do this same strategy?
Canes trade Gleason making too much at ~ $4 mil per to the Leafs.
Leafs buyout Gleason and take a cap hit for the next 4 years in the process.
Canes resign their former player for $1.2 mil now to a contract worthy of is contributions.
Carolina was able to creatively use the Leafs to correct their own contract mistake.
Now who can Nonis trade Clarkson to and try to do this same strategy?
TheOtherSide
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Would it be fair to say that Tim Gleason is the best player to wear #8 for the Leafs in the past 20 years??
Well except Carolina's still stuck with Liles, so if you mean the Leafs trading Clarkson for a similarly bad contract (Orpik?), then bringing him back for a year after a buyout... no thanks.
Also Clarkson's contract is buyout-proof, we've been over this.
ACC1224
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wasn't aki berg #8? so no, not too much of a stretch.
gleason knew how to play defense properly. however, his footspeed was too slow and the gap created by that being paired with rielly cause the large minus in both.
the leafs are moving more towards mobility, which i like.
gleason knew how to play defense properly. however, his footspeed was too slow and the gap created by that being paired with rielly cause the large minus in both.
the leafs are moving more towards mobility, which i like.
Mess
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Have a look at his buyout (not work-safe or mind-safe): http://www.capgeek.com/buyout-calculator/?player_id=780
You really believe that was their plan all along?
It wasn't a 'creative' scheme to 'use' the Leafs. They traded a bad contract for another bad contract. We bought out the bad contract, and they signed him to a decent contract, while still paying Liles his $4.25M or whatever it was.
Tim Gleason is not worth $1.2M a year. He is way below a replacement-level player. He is not just totally bereft of offensive capability, as is easy to suggest, but a trainwreck defensively. The hockey prospectus puts him at -0.9 GVT defensively. He'll be one of the worst defencemen in the NHL again this year with Carolina. Even at the #6 hole.
Actually, Liles has played very well in Carolina thus far. He fits into the system well and seems to be playing with a much higher confidence level. I think the move to smaller market was a great thing for him personally. Should be interesting to see how he comes out this next season after developing chemistry in the second half of last season.
Like Gleason was previously, I think he is making much more than he should - I'd much rather see him at ~2M-2.5M a year. However, I would not say we are "stuck with him".
Tak7
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Low risk contract for a guy that can fill out your bottom 6 for cheap?
There's nothing wrong with that deal for Gleason.
There's nothing wrong with that deal for Gleason.
