Giordano = Potentially the worst contract in the NHL?

[Kamiccolo]

So as of no I don't think anyone can say this with such a small sample size. However, outside of last years contract year play, he has always been an average D.

This year IMO he has looked like an at best #4-5D. Remember that he is 32. He's signed to a retirement deal locked in at first pairing D money 6.75 AAV.

Additionally he has a full NMC. I know there are some other contracts such as Clarkson, Dustin Brown, etc. However having a #4 D signed long term at 32 who will do nothing but decline and to have him carry a top pairing D salary and NMC is a recipe for a screwed up rebuild.

What do you guys think?

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[Dueling Banjos]

I think it's too early to say, he's been out for a while, it could get ugly but worst contract, i don't think so.

 

[eyetest is useless]

Has been an average Dman = hadn't been noticed by mainstream fans

The contract is risky, but mostly because of his health. Had he stayed healthy, he would have deserved the Norris in each of the last TWO seasons. So yeah, criticising the contract is fair game, but focusing on the performance instead of the health angle is a joke.

 

[McBaevid]

However, outside of last years contract year play, he has always been an average D.

He was a Norris level Dman the year before as well. Coming from an Oilers fan, he was/is legit. 25 games coming off an injury doesn't take that away.
Your comments show you clearly didn't watch him.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Oiler fan here who doesn't go out of his way to compliment any Flame, but Gio is far from being some one year wonder who just cashed in, he's been very very good for a number of years. How you can even bring him up as one of the worst contracts in the league with you being a Leafs fan is mind boggling, does Clarkson ring a bell? I'd also take Giordano over Phaneuf any day of the week.

 

[Nithoniniel]

Giordano is an awesome D-man who has been struggling after his injury, just like many thought he would.

 

[BigMacAttack*]

How could it be the worse contract when he's better than Subban?

 

[13 others]

How could it be the worse contract when he's better than Subban?

In some alternate reality this is true. Unfortunately for you we don't live in that world.

 

[BigMacAttack*]

In some alternate reality this is true. Unfortunately for you we don't live in that world.

HF told me Gio is better.

 

[I am Canadian]

Clarkson still winning this handily. At least Geo was something to start with. Clarkson was just a scrub.

 

[dechire]

Carle is a #7 with a NTC being paid 5.5m for 2 seasons after this one so no, Giordano's contract is not the worst in the NHL.

 

[TaketheCannoli]

I think he's no where near the worst contract. The two worst by FAR are Clarkson and Phaneuf

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

I think he's no where near the worst contract. The two worst by FAR are Clarkson and Phaneuf

I think that Bolland's deal is way worse than Phaneuf's.

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

I think that Bolland's deal is way worse than Phaneuf's.

Orpik is worse than both. Good thing the Caps don't even need him to exist.

 

[Devilspuppet666]

he will be fine, people need to calm down.

 

[Rebels57]

Carle is a #7 with a NTC being paid 5.5m for 2 seasons after this one so no, Giordano's contract is not the worst in the NHL.

And Andrew MacDonald is a #8 being paid $5 million for 4 seasons after this one.

 

[CDJ]

He had more than one good year.

 

[jdatb]

Still take him over Phaneuf every day

 

[Voight]

Oilers would have given him 7.5 if he made it to UFA. Its really not that bad.

 

[Bank Shot]

It's a fine contract for the first 3 years.

I suspect the 35+ portion of the contract is going to be painful for the Flames.

When you got to hockey reference and look for strong seasons by defensemen, the list clears out considerably when D-men start hitting age 35.

For example, since 2009/10 there have only been 10 seasons by defencemen where someone of that age scored more than 30 points. Lidstrom has 3 of those seasons.

The chances of Giordano being effective enough to justify a $7 million dollar contract in from the ages of 35-38 is pretty remote.

 

[shelf]

It's a fine contract for the first 3 years.

I suspect the 35+ portion of the contract is going to be painful for the Flames.

When you got to hockey reference and look for strong seasons by defensemen, the list clears out considerably when D-men start hitting age 35.

For example, since 2009/10 there have only been 10 seasons by defencemen where someone of that age scored more than 30 points. Lidstrom has 3 of those seasons.

The chances of Giordano being effective enough to justify a $7 million dollar contract in from the ages of 35-38 is pretty remote.

Well that's a lie.

09-10: Blake, Lidstrom, Niedermayer, Rafalski, Gonchar, *Pronger, *Timonen.

10-11: Lidstrom, Rafalski, Hamrlik, Timonen.

11-12: Lidstrom, Gonchar, Timonen, Boyle, *Kuba, *Chara

12-13: Lockout season. D-man who scored more than 20
Gonchar, Timonen, Boyle, *Streit

13-14: Timonen, Boyle, Zidlicky, Chara, Streit, *Markov

14-15: Zidlicky, Streit, Markov.

 

[InjuredChoker]

he was norris caliber 13-14 but again missed some games due to injuries.

 

[MuffinMerc]

It's not the worst contract.

 

[mrcshlbrstrm*]

So as of no I don't think anyone can say this with such a small sample size. However, outside of last years contract year play, he has always been an average D.

This year IMO he has looked like an at best #4-5D. Remember that he is 32. He's signed to a retirement deal locked in at first pairing D money 6.75 AAV.

Additionally he has a full NMC. I know there are some other contracts such as Clarkson, Dustin Brown, etc. However having a #4 D signed long term at 32 who will do nothing but decline and to have him carry a top pairing D salary and NMC is a recipe for a screwed up rebuild.

What do you guys think?

He's been bad this year, but he's not a #4. He'd be first pairing in Toronto, still wearing the C. There are worse contracts in the league.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

The real problem/risk with the contract is his health, he loses games almost every year, and a significant chunk at that. He may have less 'mileage' than other d-men his age, but he's starting to rack up injuries that are cutting into his conditioning/timing and I think this year is a result of one. I don't think it's the worst at face value, and I'm not sure it can be the worst if he's just flat out hurt as opposed to flat out terrible.