Holy shit you would say no to that as a flames fan? Wow.I'd love Ryan on this team; I really like the dude personally.
Flames under no, no, no, zero, none, zilch circumstances, will be trading Juuso at this time.
Holy shit you would say no to that as a flames fan? Wow.I'd love Ryan on this team; I really like the dude personally.
Flames under no, no, no, zero, none, zilch circumstances, will be trading Juuso at this time.
Message received regarding value - would this go any further?
Getzlaf
Neal (5.75M)
Jankowski (1.7M)
Kylington
2019 1st
2020 1st
Essentially one of the 1st rounders is for taking Neal, so the package for 2+ years of Getzlaf would be Jankowski, Kylington, and a 1st. That is starting to seem like pretty fair value?
You realize when you trade with another team, you need to give them assets they would actually want right? We don't want Neal, not even with a late 1st added to him. We do not need to add another long term contract for a player on the immediate decline. We do not need Jankowski, a possible 30 point center who is pretty much what he is now. Klyington is a fine piece, but not worth that much in exchange for a our franchise center going to a divisional rival. And another late first is not that interesting either. You have to offer pieces that would hurt, which you clearly aren't doing.Message received regarding value - would this go any further?
Getzlaf
Neal (5.75M)
Jankowski (1.7M)
Kylington
2019 1st
2020 1st
Essentially one of the 1st rounders is for taking Neal, so the package for 2+ years of Getzlaf would be Jankowski, Kylington, and a 1st. That is starting to seem like pretty fair value?
Message received regarding value - would this go any further?
Getzlaf
Neal (5.75M)
Jankowski (1.7M)
Kylington
2019 1st
2020 1st
Essentially one of the 1st rounders is for taking Neal, so the package for 2+ years of Getzlaf would be Jankowski, Kylington, and a 1st. That is starting to seem like pretty fair value?
Message received regarding value - would this go any further?
Getzlaf
Neal (5.75M)
Jankowski (1.7M)
Kylington
2019 1st
2020 1st
Essentially one of the 1st rounders is for taking Neal, so the package for 2+ years of Getzlaf would be Jankowski, Kylington, and a 1st. That is starting to seem like pretty fair value?
Holy **** you would say no to that as a flames fan? Wow.
Over the top, as in a cup contender? Isn't that the point?I like Ryan Getzlaf, I might be his biggest proponent that's not a Duck fan on this board. I like the guy, he's always been an ultra stand-up dude and good person every time I interact with him... but in all seriousness, the guy's going to be 34 in a couple months, has never been known as a physical freak, and has had injury problems for the past few seasons. I think Juuso Valimaki is a future 1D in this league.
I think it's one of those things, where one guy puts you over the top for the next 2-3 years; where the other guy will keep you relevant for the next decade +, especially as our 1D is getting older as is.
Over the top, as in a cup contender? Isn't that the point?
Still not even close. Why would we take a meh D prospect who is nothing we don't already have, another bottom 6 center when we'll have Rowney, Steel, Henrique, Kesler, Shore, and Lundestrom battling for the C spots + Kossila, Kloos, and De Leo in the minors, 2 late 1sts, and one of the worst contracts in the league for our best forward and arguably the best Duck ever, especially to send him to a division rival. Ask yourself that.Message received regarding value - would this go any further?
Getzlaf
Neal (5.75M)
Jankowski (1.7M)
Kylington
2019 1st
2020 1st
Essentially one of the 1st rounders is for taking Neal, so the package for 2+ years of Getzlaf would be Jankowski, Kylington, and a 1st. That is starting to seem like pretty fair value?
As the playoffs approach, I think the Flames could use a bit more offensive depth down the middle. Getzlaf is on the decline and I would suspect Anaheim is considering a rebuild. Getzlaf played his junior career in Calgary and might be willing to waive his NMC?
Getzlaf 8.75M
for
James Neal 5.75M
Juuso Valimaki 900k
Austin Czarnik 1.25M
2019 2nd
Thoughts?
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Getzlaf - Bennett
Frolik - Backlund - Ryan
Dube - Jankowski - Hathaway
That feels like a much more balanced lineup for the playoffs.
Thoughts? Is the value way off?
What? Cap dump remains, some picks were changed that would be closer to 2nd rounders than meaningful 1sts?You went from underpayment to overpayment...
Why Larsson? Has he not developed as expected? Wouldn’t have thought he’d be a throw away prospect even if it means getting rid of Kesler.
& those 2 firsts from Calgary will be the 29th to 31st pick 2 years in a row. I'm betting on them being among the best next season, especially if they got Getzlaf from us.Still not even close. Why would we take a meh D prospect who is nothing we don't already have, another bottom 6 center when we'll have Rowney, Steel, Henrique, Kesler, Shore, and Lundestrom battling for the C spots + Kossila, Kloos, and De Leo in the minors, 2 late 1sts, and one of the worst contracts in the league for our best forward and arguably the best Duck ever, especially to send him to a division rival. Ask yourself that.
I like Ryan Getzlaf, I might be his biggest proponent that's not a Duck fan on this board. I like the guy, he's always been an ultra stand-up dude and good person every time I interact with him... but in all seriousness, the guy's going to be 34 in a couple months, has never been known as a physical freak, and has had injury problems for the past few seasons. I think Juuso Valimaki is a future 1D in this league.
I think it's one of those things, where one guy puts you over the top for the next 2-3 years; where the other guy will keep you relevant for the next decade +, especially as our 1D is getting older as is.
I like Ryan Getzlaf, I might be his biggest proponent that's not a Duck fan on this board. I like the guy, he's always been an ultra stand-up dude and good person every time I interact with him... but in all seriousness, the guy's going to be 34 in a couple months, has never been known as a physical freak, and has had injury problems for the past few seasons. I think Juuso Valimaki is a future 1D in this league.
I think it's one of those things, where one guy puts you over the top for the next 2-3 years; where the other guy will keep you relevant for the next decade +, especially as our 1D is getting older as is.
the value is probably closer if you take Getzlaf out of the offer and end up just paying Anaheim with Valimaki to take Neal's contract