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TheNumber4

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Lay off the pipe.

Hughes is winning the Norris this year.

Yeah, yeah, “the Norris isn’t about defense”!!

Not a single GM takes either Bouch or Ekholm over Hughes.

Not. A. Single. One.
Bouch hasn’t had his true coming out party yet. You will see. But I don’t blame you for following the mainstream narrative at this point. People thought Johnny Hockey was better than Drai at one point too. The hockey world had to catch up then, and they do now.
 
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Bouch hasn’t had his true coming out party yet. You will see. But I don’t blame you for following the mainstream narrative at this point.
It’s mainstream for a reason.

Bouchard can score, I’ll give you that. But he’s a shit defenseman. Totally lost when in the D-zone.

He’s a complimentary player that benefits from playing with very high end talent.

Hughes drives play.
 

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Every other shift they are on the ice creating chances and have bums around them.
Hyman , Kane and Nugent are not bums.
And every team in the league has 5 or 6 forwards that could be swapped pretty evenly with anyone else's bottom 6.
Oiler are hitting in net , and after Elkholm and Bouchard the D are pure ass too many nights.
 
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It’s mainstream for a reason.

Bouchard can score, I’ll give you that. But he’s a shit defenseman. Totally lost when in the D-zone.

He’s a complimentary player that benefits from playing with very high end talent.

Hughes drives play.
Outdated narrative. Bouchard defends very well now. The analytics back it up as well as the eye test.
 

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Bouchard can score, I’ll give you that. But he’s a shit defenseman. Totally lost when in the D-zone.

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The advanced analytics say otherwise.
 

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Outdated narrative. Bouchard defends very well now. The analytics back it up as well as the eye test.

Whatever. He’s the next Darnell. You’re not bridging him. He’ll want $11-12mm, I mean Nurse is making $9.25.

So +20mm on 2 D-men that can’t play D.

What could go wrong.

Or, he leaves for the big paycheck and becomes a 50 point PP specialist.

Win win, as far as I’m concerned.
 
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Whatever. He’s the next Darnell. You’re not bridging him. He’ll want $11-12mm, I mean Nurse is making $9.25.

So +20mm on 2 D-men that can’t play D.

What could go wrong.

Or, he leaves for the big paycheck and becomes a 50 point PP specialist.

Win win, as far as I’m concerned.
Next Darnell except entirely different defenders in nearly every way. And unlike Darnell, Bouch can back up whatever raise he gets with elite offensive production.
 

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Which one of Hyman, RNH, Henrique, and Kane doesn't make the Canucks top-6?

The Canucks have Suter, Hoglander & Mikheyev in their top-6....

Probably the “Bouchard and Ekholm are both better than Hughes”.

But hey, that’s just me.

Next Darnell except entirely different defenders in nearly every way. And unlike Darnell, Bouch can back up whatever raise he gets with elite offensive production.

I remember hearing this about Nurse.

“Sure he’s not great defensively, but his skating and scoring make him elite”!!

You guys never change.

Every player is the next best thing.

Again, name a GM that takes either Bouch or Ekholm over Hughes.

Jesus, even Holland makes that trade and HFOil would rejoice.
 

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Probably the “Bouchard and Ekholm are both better than Hughes”.

But hey, that’s just me.




I remember hearing this about Nurse.

“Sure he’s not great defensively, but his skating and scoring make him elite”!!

You guys never change.

Every player is the next best thing.
Huh?

That couldn't be more irrelevant when it comes to my post
 

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Probably the “Bouchard and Ekholm are both better than Hughes”.

But hey, that’s just me.



I remember hearing this about Nurse.

“Sure he’s not great defensively, but his skating and scoring make him elite”!!

You guys never change.

Every player is the next best thing.
Scoring elite? Now you’re just making stuff up. But don’t even know why you’re even talking about Nurse. When the convo is Hughes vs Bouchard. The whataboutism is quite disingenuous.

Huh?

That couldn't be more irrelevant when it comes to my post
Yeh it makes no sense. He’s just saying stuff at random. It’s weird. We talking Hughes v Bouch and he’s like let me tell you about Nurses contract.
 

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Would you?
Yes. I take the two better defenceman over the worst one. Would a GM take Ekholm over Hughes? Considering age probably not. For the Oilers he’s a much better fit when we have Bouch as the offensive defenceman already. And i take Bouch over Hughes too, and as these playoffs play out I’ll be vindicated. Already am actually, just compare Hughes impact to Bouchard in the playoffs.
 

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Yes. I take the two better defenceman over the worst one. Would a GM take Ekholm over Hughes? Considering age probably not. For the Oilers he’s a much better fit when we have Bouch as the offensive defenceman already. And i take Bouch over Hughes too, and as these playoffs play out I’ll be vindicated. Already am actually, just compare Hughes impact to Bouchard in the playoffs.
We’ll see.

One player is going to win the Norris, the other won’t.

As an Oiler fan, I’m sure you can appreciate individual awards as paramount.
 

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Which one of Hyman, RNH, Henrique, and Kane doesn't make the Canucks top-6?

The Canucks have Suter, Hoglander & Mikheyev in their top-6....

Henrique isn't very good. He shouldn't be a top 6 player. The guy can barely skate but seems to know where to position himself
 

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We’ll see.

One player is going to win the Norris, the other won’t.

As an Oiler fan, I’m sure you can appreciate individual awards as paramount.
If he wins the Norris it’ll be a travesty. Makar is much much better. A different class altogether. Matthews won a Hart, so individual awards based on voting isn’t gospel.

For me, ability to play at a high level in the playoffs matters a lot. Hughes hasn’t shown he can play at his same elite level in the post season, And that should matter for GMs too.

But we can agree to disagree. Like I said, I don’t expect you or many to agree with my take. As I didn’t expect people to realize Drai was a near generational beast way back when until he proved it. Bouch is just getting started.
 

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I can respect your opinion. I have zero issues with you thinking Bouch is the second coming.

To me, Bouch is complimentary. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a great complimentary piece. But I watch Hughes and he drives play.

I’ll ask you this, switch each players roles. What does a season of Hughes playing with McDrai look like. What does Bouchard’s season look like?

I think if we’re both being honest, we know what happens.
 
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