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Geno... 65% in the dot after 3 games. What gives?

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I have not heard ANY info/news on this and I know it's a very short time frame, but a career 44% FO guy is at 65% and it looks like he's trying different things out there. Does anyone have any info that this is something he worked on? I have been very impressed.

It really does look like he's taking a different approach but i have not dissected the technique component yet. I'll leave that to @Jesse to do. :laugh:

Also..1k games played coming up! What are your thoughts?
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I'm not a big "Faceoffs are everything! Faceoffs are life!" guy and never have been. I think it's kind of an overstated ability by a lot of the hockey community. If you have one ace on your roster and the rest aren't flat out abysmal on average than you are just fine.

That said it is weird. But I expect it to level back off to closer to historical norms. I think in general we're seeing a rather agitated, chip-on-his shoulder and (while old) almost completely healthy Malkin this season. For now. That's the big difference. He's not terribly pleased that everyone thinks he's washed.

EDIT: As for 1000 games. Lets actually see if he gets there, first hahaha
 
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We’re jinxing Geno on 1,000 games lol

imo Geno has always had spurts where he’s done well on FOs….I think a lot of it in the past was him just not caring…I mean, FOs are mostly significant only on the PP and PK, but I think he’s coming around to see the benefit of winning those FOs…winning FO can be key to Ozone possession…his second goal probably doesn’t happen if he doesn’t win the FO against Suzuki…I believe Geno’s FO % is better in POs than RS but someone correct me if I’m wrong
 
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ColePens said:
I have not heard ANY info/news on this and I know it's a very short time frame, but a career 44% FO guy is at 65% and it looks like he's trying different things out there. Does anyone have any info that this is something he worked on? I have been very impressed.

It really does look like he's taking a different approach but i have not dissected the technique component yet. I'll leave that to @Jesse to do. :laugh:

Also..1k games played coming up! What are your thoughts?
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he's taking all the pp faceoffs and seemingly winning all of them
 
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Andy99 said:
We’re jinxing Geno on 1,000 games lol

imo Geno has always had spurts where he’s done well on FOs….I think a lot of it in the past was him just not caring…I mean, FOs are mostly significant only on the PP and PK, but I think he’s coming around to see the benefit of winning those FOs…winning FO can be key to Ozone possession…his second goal probably doesn’t happen if he doesn’t win the FO against Suzuki…I believe Geno’s FO % is better in POs than RS but someone correct me if I’m wrong
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this, for us who rewind every Geno's move, I can tell you that his winning percentage on FO that he really cared about (PP or left circle where he uses his backhand for an all set up play) has always been north of .500. and for @ColePens , one thing that is noticable, in the past Geno drops the stick and if he wins, he wins, so far this season, he gets second attempt, he pushes the skate in to block the opponents skate, real hustle, that helped him win quite a few FO so far. He also looks more bent down and kind of lower his center of gravity to give him a bit more strength. In other words he gives a shit for some reason:laugh::laugh:
 
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vodeni said:
this, for us who rewind every Geno's move, I can tell you that his winning percentage on FO that he really cared about (PP or left circle where he uses his backhand for an all set up play) has always been north of .500. and for @ColePens , one thing that is noticable, in the past Geno drops the stick and if he wins, he wins, so far this season, he gets second attempt, he pushes the skate in to block the opponents skate, real hustle, that helped him win quite a few FO so far. He also looks more bent down and kind of lower his center of gravity to give him a bit more strength. In other words he gives a shit for some reason:laugh::laugh:
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yep. who would've guessed giving your other superstar more responsibilities instead of treating him like a problem would result in him embracing the roles!
 
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Gurglesons said:
yep. who would've guessed giving your other superstar more responsibilities instead of treating him like a problem would result in him embracing the roles!
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There is a ton of truth to this that doesn't seem to get acknowledged enough.

Malkin generally almost always delivers when he is trusted. I wish they'd get him out there more to seal games. Ahem.
 
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BlindWillyMcHurt said:
There is a ton of truth to this that doesn't seem to get acknowledged enough.

Malkin generally almost always delivers when he is trusted. I wish they'd get him out there more to seal games. Ahem.
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ZMR was out there plenty in the clutch yesterday. Sully clearly likes what he sees right now
 
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ZMR was out there plenty in the clutch yesterday. Sully clearly likes what he sees right now
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Sure. I'm just saying that a near-surefire trick to getting Malkin going is to actually lean on him for more things. If I'm Sullivan I try to find more and more situations to get him in out there without burning him out via overuse.

Hopefully he keeps it up. He seems dialed in right now. Which is usually exactly when he or a crucial component of his line that the team can't really replace takes a nagging LBI or something utterly predictable.
 
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vodeni said:
this, for us who rewind every Geno's move, I can tell you that his winning percentage on FO that he really cared about (PP or left circle where he uses his backhand for an all set up play) has always been north of .500. and for @ColePens , one thing that is noticable, in the past Geno drops the stick and if he wins, he wins, so far this season, he gets second attempt, he pushes the skate in to block the opponents skate, real hustle, that helped him win quite a few FO so far. He also looks more bent down and kind of lower his center of gravity to give him a bit more strength. In other words he gives a shit for some reason:laugh::laugh:
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I've noticed a more "chopping" motion from Malkin this year on the dot, especially on the backhand. Then he uses his frame to box out the other guy and is able to push the puck back to teammates

This is different as Geno used to mimic Sid a bit...he really likes the "swipe" and Sid's hand/eye is next level so it's hard for anyone to replicate.
 
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vodeni said:
this, for us who rewind every Geno's move, I can tell you that his winning percentage on FO that he really cared about (PP or left circle where he uses his backhand for an all set up play) has always been north of .500. and for @ColePens , one thing that is noticable, in the past Geno drops the stick and if he wins, he wins, so far this season, he gets second attempt, he pushes the skate in to block the opponents skate, real hustle, that helped him win quite a few FO so far. He also looks more bent down and kind of lower his center of gravity to give him a bit more strength. In other words he gives a shit for some reason:laugh::laugh:
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FWIW, Geno was also just a hair lower than Sid on FO% in the postseason last year. It's not really a super recent thing, I think it's just more of a sign that Geno's heavily invested in this season.
 
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Gurglesons said:
yep. who would've guessed giving your other superstar more responsibilities instead of treating him like a problem would result in him embracing the roles!
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geno's always been like that. more responsibility has always made him even more invested, not less. it's one of the things Therrien got right while he was here. I'm with @vodeni, on the important draws he's always been above average. It just seems like now just about every draw is important to him for the first time in his career lol. Probably a combination of Crosby's influence and that Geno is rather pissed off this season.

WHERE is @KIRK to see this resurgence? I don't even see an account anymore
 
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I miss that dang ol' cuss @KIRK. But I think he deleted his profile because he was just not having fun here and had other things to do with his time like traveling with his wife.

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