Post-Game Talk: Game 8 - Pittspurgh Penguins @ Washington Capitals - 8PM ET - NBCSN

[Chukcha]

it was unfair, they wasted a 5-on-3 opportunity and still won

 

[bur and 666 others]

And we must overcome the limitations of the Oates era. We need a real change of culture that we haven't had yet. I mean, yeah, it's harder, but we must learn how to win with fancy GDTs.

LOL, true, how long are we going to be on plain GDTs, curb our creativeness, refuse to get our hopes high and be cautious in our passion?

btw, yesterday we handled the first comeback win to the Pens since 1965, now i'm mad!!!

 

[John Price]

Officiating rampant biased but evened out in second. Third period was a Jay gruden quarter.

 

[RandyHolt]

I dont like the moving of non Orlov D to RD.

It's almost like we are looking at life without Orlov.

 

[Calicaps]

LOL what a garbage game. I hope it's just a negative effect of that long rest.

Orlov looked like a complete trash, move him to the RD and play Schmidt.
Ovechkin looked the same he's been all season: off, but creating nice chances, getting shots and hits.
Orpik looked as a guy who's trying to get to a game shape through games and really wants to throw big hits.
Do something to damn Laich. Force him to retire if he's going to play like that, find a tanking team, anything, because an AHL level Stephenson looked better than he did.
Williams should just strike off those blind passes from his game at all. Same for the rest of the team.
Johansson likely forgot that it's a contract year for him.

And we must overcome the limitations of the Oates era. We need a real change of culture that we haven't had yet. I mean, yeah, it's harder, but we must learn how to win with fancy GDTs.

I don't see that they are ready for that challenge yet.

 

[BiPolar Caps]

I blame the loss solely on the GDT. It was over the top and too glitzy. Keep it simple.
Minimalism is better, it's what the Capitals board is known for.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Stephenson is our next Eakin. Stick with him. He'll develop more here in 10 minutes a night than in Hershey. You only need to be patient with top-6 guys. They need to keep their confidence up and score to keep progressing. Stephenson is going to be a good 3rd line center sooner than you think.

I'm all for sticking with the young guys through Jan/early Feb. Just discussing the obvious, that his line is overmatched fairly often. I love his potential.

 

[Raikkonen]

Lets make a poll fancy-vs-minimalist.

 

[artilector]

Every gdt should include a dead penguin.

 

[Langway]

I'm all for sticking with the young guys through Jan/early Feb. Just discussing the obvious, that his line is overmatched fairly often. I love his potential.

I don't think they've been overmatched (they do have solid possession numbers) but they haven't scored to offset what they've been on for. Laich hasn't been on for a single goal for and neither has Stephenson. Only fifteen forwards have played more 5-on-5 TOI than Laich and not been on for a goal for yet. None have a higher cap hit. Laich is a very marginal 5-on-5 player and PK specialist at this point. No use expecting that to change.

I don't think there's an apparent solution for the fourth-line that makes it great and that probably holds for the third line as well. They need more energy forwards that play smart in addition to hard. I'm inclined to let Stephenson figure it out but it's hard to figure how Burakovsky gets going playing with those two and getting a few shifts up the lineup.

 

[caps8]

LOL what a garbage game. I hope it's just a negative effect of that long rest.

Orlov looked like a complete trash, move him to the RD and play Schmidt.
Ovechkin looked the same he's been all season: off, but creating nice chances, getting shots and hits.
Orpik looked as a guy who's trying to get to a game shape through games and really wants to throw big hits.
Do something to damn Laich. Force him to retire if he's going to play like that, find a tanking team, anything, because an AHL level Stephenson looked better than he did.
Williams should just strike off those blind passes from his game at all. Same for the rest of the team.
Johansson likely forgot that it's a contract year for him.

And we must overcome the limitations of the Oates era. We need a real change of culture that we haven't had yet. I mean, yeah, it's harder, but we must learn how to win with fancy GDTs.

Fleury stole that game for the Pens and a couple mental mistakes cost us.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I don't think they've been overmatched (they do have solid possession numbers) but they haven't scored to offset what they've been on for. Laich hasn't been on for a single goal for and neither has Stephenson. Only fifteen forwards have played more 5-on-5 TOI than Laich and not been on for a goal for yet. None have a higher cap hit. Laich is a very marginal 5-on-5 player and PK specialist at this point. No use expecting that to change.

I don't think there's an apparent solution for the fourth-line that makes it great and that probably holds for the third line as well. They need more energy forwards that play smart in addition to hard. I'm inclined to let Stephenson figure it out but it's hard to figure how Burakovsky gets going playing with those two and getting a few shifts up the lineup.

Are we trying to blame it all on Laich? If you're giving up more that you're getting you're overmatched in my book.

Nothing to do but let them all play meaningful minutes for now.

 

[Langway]

Are we trying to blame it all on Laich? If you're giving up more that you're getting you're overmatched in my book.

Nothing to do but let them all play meaningful minutes for now.

No but his cap hit has a significant impact on the construction of the bottom six and the bottom of the roster overall. For a supposed veteran leader he adds nothing to any line offensively at this point. The best that can be said of him 5-on-5 is that he's typically fine defensively and helps play to head in the right direction. That line has no identity and Laich's complete vanilla game is part of why that's the case.

Ideally, Stephenson would be adding layers to his game at the AHL level rather than learning on the fly with very limited time and space. They'll have to consider the idea of sending him down if they continue to be outscored and not trusted. Let him build some confidence and work on his skill level down there and come back a more dangerous player. Latta isn't great but he can help add some element of grit at least.

 

[Blades of Steel]

the next GDT is going to be so basic, it's not even going to say GDT, just "game" as title. no time, no opponents, nothing.

 

[Capathetic]

Someone has to test a really awesome fancy GDT against a bad team too though

 

[442]

the next GDT is going to be so basic, it's not even going to say GDT, just "game" as title. no time, no opponents, nothing.

My specialty

 

[Calicaps]

Someone has to test a really awesome fancy GDT against a bad team too though

You mean like the Pens?

 

[g00n]

My specialty

before you do it, change your username to just "4".

 

[Devil Dancer]

Fancy GDT and hot goalies go together like chocolate and peanut butter. I like BoS's proposal.

 

[Bananas]

Lets make a poll fancy-vs-minimalist.

We're the George Costanzas of Hockey, so whatever we vote for we should do the opposite...

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

You mean like the Pens?

Shots fired!

I'm not too worried about losing yesterday's game, MAF got the win on his own basically. We won't face many hot goalies like that during the season.

 

[Lard Stanley]

Punctuation is everything.

"Are you kidding? Me, right now."

 

[Calicaps]

Punctuation is everything.

"Are you kidding? Me, right now."

Well played.

 

[philip]

What's GDT?

 

[LegendaryNumber5]

Did anybody else notice Backstrom and Crosby in the corner. Crosby is sitting there slashing and cross checking Backstrom, I mean really laying into him. Crosby skates away and the Backstrom gives him a little tap on the gloves which causes Crosby to immediately throw his hands in the air and look for the ref. He has been doing this **** for years and honestly I am just so sick of Crosby.