GDT: Game 24: Arizona @ Edmonton | 19:30 MST | BSAZX | Last game of the road trip

[IrishFin]

Fischer has now matched his point total from last year in 29 fewer games.

 

[rt]

Fischer has now matched his point total from last year in 29 fewer games.

Finally on pace to match his rookie season again. He’s been a quality checking line player this season. I honestly didn’t believe this could happen after the last few years. Tocchet really did a number on this kid, I guess.

 

[Nowotny]

Finally on pace to match his rookie season again. He’s been a quality checking line player this season. I honestly didn’t believe this could happen after the last few years. Tocchet really did a number on this kid, I guess.

I believe he once went a calendar year without scoring a goal

 

[rt]

I believe he onece went a calendar year without scoring a goal

I fully come aboard the Fischer train again as soon as he challenges Nate MacKinnon to a fight. Even if Nate declines. Even if Nate beats the crap out of him. Fish has to challenge him to reclaim something he has lost.

I’m only half kidding. I guess it doesn’t have to be MacKinnon but I’d really feel better about him if he’d fight someone. Anyone. That bubble incident really taints my view of this player.

 

[Jakey53]

Just that it was his big night and had all the friends and family in attendance and then this happened. Probably the worst game under Tourigny. They honestly looked like the mites team I coach.

Why? Is your team near last place?

Finally on pace to match his rookie season again. He’s been a quality checking line player this season. I honestly didn’t believe this could happen after the last few years. Tocchet really did a number on this kid, I guess.

RT did a number on the team in general.

 

[LittlePipes]

Just watched the recap.
Damn, we got stomped. So many Bad turnovers or Puck mishandles.
And ingram got so unsecure during the Game because of this. Its Not His fault we lost and i Hope that the Coach says the Same.

Hopefully it geht's better now that we Play at Home.

forget “forecheck backcheck paycheck”, we’re down to hope.

 

[LittlePipes]

So, just more than 25% through the season. I’m going to take a more subtle approach than last time.
Thus, considering last nights performance, what grade would give for:
1) The level of effort and execution on the part of the players?
2) The evidence of high quality instruction, strategy and planning on the coaches part, as it pertains to player effort and execution?

Dont digitally shoot me. Someone is gonna ask, might as well be little pipes

 

[The Feckless Puck]

RT did a number on the team in general.

I'm still giggling about even the idea that Rick Tocchet is a candidate for any open coaching job.

 

[LittlePipes]

So, just more than 25% through the season. I’m going to take a more subtle approach than last time.
Thus, considering last nights performance, what grade would give for:
1) The level of effort and execution on the part of the players?
2) The evidence of high quality instruction, strategy and planning on the coaches part, as it pertains to player effort and execution?

Dont digitally shoot me. Someone is gonna ask, might as well be little pipes

1) D-
2) D-

 

[Kai Yo T]

So, just more than 25% through the season. I’m going to take a more subtle approach than last time.
Thus, considering last nights performance, what grade would give for:
1) The level of effort and execution on the part of the players?
2) The evidence of high quality instruction, strategy and planning on the coaches part, as it pertains to player effort and execution?

Dont digitally shoot me. Someone is gonna ask, might as well be little pipes

Based on EVERYTHING being stacked against them:

1. B+
Last night aside, since it was their 14th game on the road, in a row; I think the team has overachieved so far. We're not even in last place and we have less talent than every other team in the league and a tougher schedule too.

2. A+
Tourigny is awesome, he's just got one of the worst jobs in the league right now and he's still been fantastic. Scotty Bowman couldn't do a better job with what we've assembled.

This team was built to lose games and here we are... go figure! Not sure if these grades are justified, but I think all things considerded they deserve a good mark.

Don't mistake being outmatched for being unprepared, poor planning, or poor effort.

Edit: I don't really think it's fair to judge the team or the coach for a lack of success when the GM's vision is a high draft pick.

 

[MIGs Dog]

I'm still giggling about even the idea that Rick Tocchet is a candidate for any open coaching job.

One thing I learned in the military is that how you present yourself (appearance, vibe, attitude, speech pattern) carries much more weight than competency. That's not too say that those being promoted are incompetent, but rather high-level performers are often overlooked.

RT comes across as a guy that should be a successful hockey coach. The fact that his head coaching record sucks is less relevant. (apparently)

 

[SniperHF]

I'm still giggling about even the idea that Rick Tocchet is a candidate for any open coaching job.

Hopefully for a team in our division soon so we can play him frequently!

 

[Coyotedroppings]

I pray this is Haytons last season in the league. Just a nothing player.

He’s really going to hell. Maybe he needs to change his profile radius, the falling is out of hand.

 

[LittlePipes]

Based on EVERYTHING being stacked against them:

1. B+
Last night aside, since it was their 14th game on the road, in a row; I think the team has overachieved so far. We're not even in last place and we have less talent than every other team in the league and a tougher schedule too.

2. A+
Tourigny is awesome, he's just got one of the worst jobs in the league right now and he's still been fantastic. Scotty Bowman couldn't do a better job with what we've assembled.

This team was built to lose games and here we are... go figure! Not sure if these grades are justified, but I think all things considerded they deserve a good mark.

Don't mistake being outmatched for being unprepared, poor planning, or poor effort.

Edit: I don't really think it's fair to judge the team or the coach for a lack of success when the GM's vision is a high draft pick.

lol. I wasnt judging, just asking. thanks for your input

 

[Kai Yo T]

lol. I wasnt judging, just asking. thanks for your input

I didn't intend for that to sound insulting, nor was it directed at you personally. My apologies if it sounded that way.

 

[Fyreman]

I'm still giggling about even the idea that Rick Tocchet is a candidate for any open coaching job.

Owners must NOT go back and look at his past HC debacles. Geez, is it that hard??

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Owners must NOT go back and look at his past HC debacles. Geez, is it that hard??

Here's the thing - Tocchet is a member of the Boys' Club. He's Gretzky's buddy as well as a peer of about half to three-quarters of the bunch that is now running the league. Hence, they will ignore every rational metric when it comes to hiring him that they would pay attention to for anyone not in The Gang.

And as long as that mentality exists, any organization that can successfully break out of it has an automatic advantage over the others.

 

[XX]

So, just more than 25% through the season. I’m going to take a more subtle approach than last time.
Thus, considering last nights performance, what grade would give for:
1) The level of effort and execution on the part of the players?
2) The evidence of high quality instruction, strategy and planning on the coaches part, as it pertains to player effort and execution?

Dont digitally shoot me. Someone is gonna ask, might as well be little pipes

1) D-
2) D-

Were you not here for the Tocchet days? I feel like that's the only way you could ever seriously give Tourigny poor marks for anything. This team literally hasn't been shut out yet.

 

[LittlePipes]

Were you not here for the Tocchet days? I feel like that's the only way you could ever seriously give Tourigny poor marks for anything. This team literally hasn't been shut out yet.

“considering last nights performance”
fyi - been a yotes fan since Don Hay, day 1.

 

[XX]

“considering last nights performance”
fyi - been a yotes fan since Don Hay, day 1.

It's one game.

Jared Bednar had MacK, Duchene, Rantanen, Barrie, Landeskog etc... his first year and won 22 games.

Why not list out the players that have improved under Tourigny, and those that have regressed? Might be illuminating for you.

 

[LittlePipes]

It's one game.

Jared Bednar had MacK, Duchene, Rantanen, Barrie, Landeskog etc... his first year and won 22 games.

Why not list out the players that have improved under Tourigny, and those that have regressed? Might be illuminating for you.

just a question. its ok if you dont want to answer

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Here's the thing - Tocchet is a member of the Boys' Club. He's Gretzky's buddy as well as a peer of about half to three-quarters of the bunch that is now running the league. Hence, they will ignore every rational metric when it comes to hiring him that they would pay attention to for anyone not in The Gang.

And as long as that mentality exists, any organization that can successfully break out of it has an automatic advantage over the others.

In defense of the good ol’ boys club, none have hired him as HC, since his most recent debacle here.