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Golden_Jet
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I really doubt there would be an insurance claim, as Murray’s 4.7 leafs owe and Klingberg’s 4, are around 8th and 9th most expensive on the team. Teams typically insure 4 or 5 players, not close to half the team.
At some point the coincidences become too much to believe. It’s been going on for years in that org.
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Yeah, I already brought that up, though at least in the last publically available info on the league group plan I've seen, the minimum was 5 players covered, and covering more means reducing coverage everyone proportionately
Idk, this isn't that hard to understand imo.
There's probably a lot of guys in the NHL that are still playing NHL caliber hockey but that could use a clean up of something or other. I can see guys with multiple years left trying to ride it out, maybe to avoid a buyout. There's a stigma attached to the buyout
In the case of these two guys, last year of a deal, not playing well, maybe being told you're not going to play. Go get yourself cleaned up. Enjoy your paycheque. Maybe next year you get a PTO. They get paid. Don't suffer the indignity of the minors. Team gets cap relief.
And guys playing thru something and then getting surgery happens all the time. Every spring there's guys getting something cleaned up after their team is eliminated
It's not against the rules. But I certainly believe that the players were strongly encouraged to go this route
There's probably a lot of guys in the NHL that are still playing NHL caliber hockey but that could use a clean up of something or other. I can see guys with multiple years left trying to ride it out, maybe to avoid a buyout. There's a stigma attached to the buyout
In the case of these two guys, last year of a deal, not playing well, maybe being told you're not going to play. Go get yourself cleaned up. Enjoy your paycheque. Maybe next year you get a PTO. They get paid. Don't suffer the indignity of the minors. Team gets cap relief.
And guys playing thru something and then getting surgery happens all the time. Every spring there's guys getting something cleaned up after their team is eliminated
It's not against the rules. But I certainly believe that the players were strongly encouraged to go this route
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No problem, and you know it baby. if you need a block on mobile post #721 in here I posted a way.
You are the one who keeps being up the conspiracy crap. Who exactly claimed this??? I said the rules are relaxed, which allows for teams with resources to liberally use the rules to their advantage. That's all. Not the first time you exaggerated another person's point of view to justify your own.
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The rules aren't relaxed, these guy got surgery making them eligible to go on LTIR,
Gck even suggested he wouldn't be surprised if they avoided making an insurance claim to avoid increased scrutiny.
All this so you can believe they've been lucky with injuries despite the fact that they have lost 48 man games on the backend so far not including Muzzin who is ltiretired
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Well it would avoid scrutiny questions, like why did you wait until the October to get surgery, what was wrong with May/June when insurance wouldn’t pay out as much and player wouldn’t be done for the full NHL season.
Some Leaf fans said so he could still enjoy his summer instead of rehabbing.
If you could answer 2 questions with plausible responses that would help since I can’t come up with one.
1. Why did the leafs wait until the buyout window was about to close to decide he was going on LTIR if he needed surgery.
2. Why is Klingberg’s surgery not happening until the end of December since it has a recovery of 4-6 months.
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There's no scrutiny to be had, players and teams have full discretion when it comes to when to get surgery, and once they have surgery they won't be cleared to play and this be eligible for LTIR.
You clearly already decided why the timing is what it is, you've got the conspiracy locked in and anything else is implausible to you so what's the point? In the end, it doesn't really matter, Murray was never part of the debate as to whether the leafs have been lucky with injuries, he's just a guy you brought into the conversation to try and distract from the main point.
As for Klingberg, perhaps they are trying to time it to have him available for the playoffs, or with the holiday season, elective surgeries are a bit harder to schedule, in the end it doesn't matter because it's all irrelevant to the main point, 50 dman games lost in 24 games is not lucky wrt injuries.
Timmons is misleading. They didn’t have enough cap space to add him to the roster until Klingberg was put on LTIR. If they hadn’t put Timmons on LTIR he would have had to be waived to the Marlies.
Now you are just being asinine.
They weren’t waiving Reilly, Brodie, Klingberg, Liljegren, McCabe or Gio.
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