GDT: Game 15 - New York Rangers @ Detroit Red Wings - 7pm EST , MSG

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Unpredictable1

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After Tuesday I was like "I think I'm going to take a few games off from watching, they're pissing me off too much and it's literally ruining my nights."

Me this morning:
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The fact that Jacob Trouba is playing through a pretty annoying injury this early in the season, tells you all you need to know about how worried the organization is about the team's start.
 
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The fact that Jacob Trouba is playing through a pretty annoying injury this early in the season, tells you all you need to know about how worried the organization is about the team's start.
If they’re really so worried they would have offered Trotz the job by now
 

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Jonatan Berggren is making his NHL debut tonight for Detroit. Bet the house on him scoring a goal, and probably a hat trick, because we're the Rangers and we lead the league in first NHL goals allowed. I'm kidding, maybe.

Berggren was drafted with a 2nd round pick in 2018 by Detroit. We sent them that pick in the deadline deal for Brendan Smith. We originally acquired that pick from Ottawa with Zibanejad for Derick Brassard. Of course Berggren makes his NHL debut against us.
 
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Here's a fun tidbit: Rangers literally haven't won any game that Hajek has played this season (0-3-2). Good thing it's looking like Jones will be scratched tonight if Lindgren is back.
 
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Jonatan Berggren is making his NHL debut tonight for Detroit. Bet the house on him scoring a goal, and probably a hat trick, because we're the Rangers and we lead the league in first NHL goals allowed. I'm kidding, maybe.

Berggren was drafted with a 2nd round pick in 2018 by Detroit. We sent them that pick in the deadline deal for Brendan Smith that year. We originally acquired that pick from Ottawa with Zibanejad for Derick Brassard. Of course Berggren makes his NHL debut against us.

Jesus.

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Seems like Jones is his own worst enemy. JMO but appears like he’s over trying; showcasing his offensive abilities when he should be emphasizing his defensive and allowing his offensive game to show only when there is little risk to his abandoned point. Right now it’s his job to lose and he’s losing it.
Down in Hartford, Scanlin is looking steady and Brandon is a big Canadian kid 6’4” 215 lbs.
 

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Seems like Jones is his own worst enemy. JMO but appears like he’s over trying; showcasing his offensive abilities when he should be emphasizing his defensive and allowing his offensive game to show only when there is little risk to his abandoned point. Right now it’s his job to lose and he’s losing it.
Down in Hartford, Scanlin is looking steady and Brandon is a big Canadian kid 6’4” 215 lbs.

On record this off-season saying Matthew Robertson will be the third pair LD by mid-season and I'm sticking to it.
 

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On record this off-season saying Matthew Robertson will be the third pair LD by mid-season and I'm sticking to it.
Curious to hear what your thought process is? Robertson is steady but after watching him the second half of last season and then the beginning of this season it appears that his shooting is not up to AHL level much less NHL level. Not saying he needs to score 10 goals but the placement and velocity of his shot needs work.
 

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Seems like Jones is his own worst enemy. JMO but appears like he’s over trying; showcasing his offensive abilities when he should be emphasizing his defensive and allowing his offensive game to show only when there is little risk to his abandoned point. Right now it’s his job to lose and he’s losing it.
Down in Hartford, Scanlin is looking steady and Brandon is a big Canadian kid 6’4” 215 lbs.
There are like 5 dmen in the whole NHL who can carry the puck and weave through the NZ into the O zone with possession at 5 on 5, and even then it's not successful more often than it is. Yet Jones continues to try this about twice a game to prove his offensive worth. Even if there's room to do it from DZ to NZ, have a plan to pass it off nice and early before you're closed on. Every time he either gets the puck knocked off his stick and turned the other way or he realizes his ship is sunk and has like one pass option left and everyone knows it, so that too is easily blocked and turned the other way. Some guys are elite passers (Fox) and can squeeze the pass through when they get closed on, even when everyone knows where its going, but Jones ain't it, not yet at least.

Curious to hear what your thought process is? Robertson is steady but after watching him the second half of last season and then the beginning of this season it appears that his shooting is not up to AHL level much less NHL level. Not saying he needs to score 10 goals but the placement and velocity of his shot needs work.
If he can defense and knows how to keep a cycle going, he can stay. Even muffin shots can be ok if they're not blocked on the way in every time.
 
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Seems like Jones is his own worst enemy. JMO but appears like he’s over trying; showcasing his offensive abilities when he should be emphasizing his defensive and allowing his offensive game to show only when there is little risk to his abandoned point. Right now it’s his job to lose and he’s losing it.
Down in Hartford, Scanlin is looking steady and Brandon is a big Canadian kid 6’4” 215 lbs.

Is Scanlin a bigger Lindgren? Don’t know much about him tbh.
 

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Is Scanlin a bigger Lindgren? Don’t know much about him tbh.
I haven’t seen him stepping up on opposing players yet but he steady. Keeps his man to the outside and can take him to the boards. Need more of a sample size to truly understand his abilities and short-comings if there are any. Right now the best thing I can say is steady.

There are like 5 dmen in the whole NHL who can carry the puck and weave through the NZ into the O zone with possession at 5 on 5, and even then it's not successful more often than it is. Yet Jones continues to try this about twice a game to prove his offensive worth. Even if there's room to do it from DZ to NZ, have a plan to pass it off nice and early before you're closed on. Every time he either gets the puck knocked off his stick and turned the other way or he realizes his ship is sunk and has like one pass option left and everyone knows it, so that too is easily blocked and turned the other way. Some guys are elite passers (Fox) and can squeeze the pass through when they get closed on, even when everyone knows where its going, but Jones ain't it, not yet at least.


If he can defense and knows how to keep a cycle going, he can stay. Even muffin shots can be ok if they're not blocked on the way in every time.
Agree 100% on your assessment of Jones. Hope he reads your post.
 
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