GDT: Game 14: Detroit Red Wings vs rags | 11/10/2022 | 7:00 PM ET (BSD)

[MIKELGRW]

Sunny should be back and Ned might be in net for this one.

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[MIKELGRW]

#RedWings lines in practice:
Suter-Larkin-Raymond
Kubalik-Copp-Bertuzzi (for Perron)
Erne-Rasmussen-Sundqvist
Soderblom-Veleno-Czarnik
Chiarot-Seider
Maatta-Hronek
Hagg-Lindstrom
Walman-Oesterle
Bertuzzi, Fabbri, Pysyk in blue non-contact jerseys.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Sit Czarnik. Put Sunny in. Add Berggren to the lineup. Win win win!

 

[raymond23]

#RedWings lines in practice:
Suter-Larkin-Raymond
Kubalik-Copp-Bertuzzi (for Perron)
Erne-Rasmussen-Sundqvist
Soderblom-Veleno-Czarnik
Chiarot-Seider
Maatta-Hronek
Hagg-Lindstrom
Walman-Oesterle
Bertuzzi, Fabbri, Pysyk in blue non-contact jerseys.

Please no Hagg. We’ve been considerably better with Oesterle. Hagg is so so bad

 

[redwings8831]

 

[Henkka]

Sit Czarnik. Add Berggren to the lineup. Win win win!

Think Czarnik is the better player. I like what he brings.

 

[norrisnick]

Think Czarnik is the better player. I like what he brings.

Had the Wings called up Berggren and people were clamoring for Czarnik that statement would be reversed.

 

[MIKELGRW]

 

[Gniwder]

Sit Czarnik. Put Sunny in. Add Berggren to the lineup. Win win win!

Please no Hagg. We’ve been considerably better with Oesterle. Hagg is so so bad

Unfortunately, I think this is setting up for Oesterle playing forward if Sunny isn't ready to go. No other reason to put Hagg in for D, he sucks worse than Oest.


4-2 loss, Hagg winds up being the spacegoat because I spent 3 minutes making this photoshop, and I need a reason to keep posting it.

 

[Gniwder]

FYI, Sunny is cleared to play. that avoids the dreaded scenario of seeing Oesterle and Hagg in the same game.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Somebody truly dislikes Berggren's game. Not sure who, but somebody high up.

They should just trade him if this is how they're going to go about it, honestly. He had a great year last year and now there are 3-4 guys ahead of him to call up from the .500 Griffins? Ridiculous.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Somebody truly dislikes Berggren's game. Not sure who, but somebody high up.

They should just trade him if this is how they're going to go about it, honestly. He had a great year last year and now there are 3-4 guys ahead of him to call up from the .500 Griffins? Ridiculous.

Sadly, I agree.

If they think he can only be a one-dimensional guy then dangle him in a trade. Vrana or Bert + Berggren for an upgrade.

Here are a few RFAs that will probably get a nice raise:

Jesper Bratt
Roope Hintz
PLD
Troy Terry
Evan Bouchard

Many more to come as the year progresses.

If Kubalik continues to play the way he has so far then he's a keeper. Moving one of our injured 2nd liners and a prospect for a 2nd line player that is a rock defensively would be the move I would make.

 

[The Flying Octopus]

Sadly, I agree.

If they think he can only be a one-dimensional guy then dangle him in a trade. Vrana or Bert + Berggren for an upgrade.

Here are a few RFAs that will probably get a nice raise:

Jesper Bratt
Roope Hintz
PLD
Troy Terry
Evan Bouchard

Many more to come as the year progresses.

If Kubalik continues to play the way he has so far then he's a keeper. Moving one of our injured 2nd liners and a prospect for a 2nd line player that is a rock defensively would be the move I would make.

Vrana ? Bert ? Package one + Berggren for an upgrade? Upgrade of what? Better be a top 2 d-man or a 40+ goal scorer, or it just wont happen. Yzerman doesn't dangle players that way. Also, Vrana, (if this is a substance abuse thing), is the Wings best scorer since Z/Dat/Hossa and wont be going anywhere. People come back from substance abuse way better off, I know I did. Unless we think this is a Bobby Ryan situation, Vrana is basically untouchable going forward.

 

[Perfect Human]

Berggren+1st for Slaf…burry him in the minors and ruin his career.

 

[Ulysses31]

Berggren+1st for Slaf…burry him in the minors and ruin his career.

on the plus side i think luff makes more money when he is with the DRW. he will be making some good $$ while he recovers.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Vrana ? Bert ? Package one + Berggren for an upgrade? Upgrade of what? Better be a top 2 d-man or a 40+ goal scorer, or it just wont happen. Yzerman doesn't dangle players that way. Also, Vrana, (if this is a substance abuse thing), is the Wings best scorer since Z/Dat/Hossa and wont be going anywhere. People come back from substance abuse way better off, I know I did. Unless we think this is a Bobby Ryan situation, Vrana is basically untouchable going forward.

When did Vrana play a full season and score 40 goals? So far we’ve only seen 2 shortened seasons with high scoring paces under a bad defensive coach.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Somebody truly dislikes Berggren's game. Not sure who, but somebody high up.

They should just trade him if this is how they're going to go about it, honestly. He had a great year last year and now there are 3-4 guys ahead of him to call up from the .500 Griffins? Ridiculous.

Agreed

If he is not in the organizations plans then move him.

He has produced everywhere he has played. If that's not good enough, that's fine, you owe him a chance somewhere else

 

[Henkka]

Somebody truly dislikes Berggren's game. Not sure who, but somebody high up.

They should just trade him if this is how they're going to go about it, honestly. He had a great year last year and now there are 3-4 guys ahead of him to call up from the .500 Griffins? Ridiculous.

There's no conspiracy theory.

When we needed bodies up in NHL...

1. Matt Luff was Griffins leading scorer, and Berggren was injured.

When we needed another body....

2. Austin Czarnik was Griffins second best scorer, and Berggren was returning from injury..

Now Berggren is maybe Griffins 3rd best scorer, but there's no need for NHL extra body.

When Bertuzzi is coming back, the roster push is down, sending guys back to Griffins.

When the next injury wave will occur, THEN, Berggren has to make sure, that on that time, he is the Griffins best scorer, to deserve a callup. If he doesn't make that happen, the callup doesn't happen.


It's that damn simple. Yzerman will call the best player, because they want to win.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

There's no conspiracy theory.

When we needed bodies up in NHL...

1. Matt Luff was Griffins leading scorer, and Berggren was injured.

When we needed another body....

2. Austin Czarnik was Griffins second best scorer, and Berggren was returning from injury..

Now Berggren is maybe Griffins 3rd best scorer, but there's no need for NHL extra body.

When Bertuzzi is coming back, the roster push is down, sending guys back to Griffins.

When the next injury wave will occur, THEN, Berggren has to make sure, that on that time, he is the Griffins best scorer, to deserve a callup. If he doesn't make that happen, the callup doesn't happen.


It's that damn simple. Yzerman will call the best player, because they want to win.

Their is likely more to it then who is currently atop the Griffins point leader board.

 

[Henkka]

Their is likely more to it then who is currently atop the Griffins point leader board.

Yeah, it's Berggren being injured during those callups happened.

 

[Gniwder]

Their is likely more to it then who is currently atop the Griffins point leader board.

Berggren also didn't impress during the preseason, and Zadina, Veleno, Smith, Luff, and Czarnik all have prior NHL experience.

Eye test is important for a coach. Berggren needs to bring it next preseason.

 

[Gniwder]

Vrana ? Bert ? Package one + Berggren for an upgrade? Upgrade of what? Better be a top 2 d-man or a 40+ goal scorer, or it just wont happen. Yzerman doesn't dangle players that way. Also, Vrana, (if this is a substance abuse thing), is the Wings best scorer since Z/Dat/Hossa and wont be going anywhere. People come back from substance abuse way better off, I know I did. Unless we think this is a Bobby Ryan situation, Vrana is basically untouchable going forward.

Vrana coming off the program has very little trade value. Teams will take a chance because he can score, but they aren't gonna risk a lot.

 

[Ricelund]

Have to think the Rangers are going to come out flying tonight after the loss at MSG. The good news is Shesterkin looks human this year so far.

 

[Henkka]

Have to think the Rangers are going to come out flying tonight after the loss at MSG. The good news is Shesterkin looks human this year so far.

They already came out flying against NYI, leading 3-1 after 40min, going 3-2, and still putting offence like hell on the ice... and did lost on the final 10min giving up 3-3 and 3-4 goals.

 

[brett89]

i am curious to see where kubs plays on the rare occasion the team is healthy. i dont see how he can go back to the 3rd line after his start. regardless lets go wings!