Post-Game Talk: Game 12: Anaheim Ducks vs Pittsburgh Penguins, 7pm PT, BSSC (Ducks lose 2-0, gotta score goals to win games)

[Hockey Duckie]

They may well just want to force feed him the NHL. It’s a developmental year, in spite of the early success.

I dunno. @CrazyDuck4u has a point that when Carlsson or Z lose the faceoff, then they're immediately defending despite starting in the OZone. If Carlsson doesn't have the energy, then that top line is muted. It's going to be a long and arduous season for the top line if they can't win FOs or develop a tenacity for winning puck battles.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Well on the bright side of life, though we SHOULD theoretically beat them anyway, pressures off Sunday. San Jose has won an actual hockey game, beat Philly 2-1.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

We could have won this game. The team looked slow, listless, and not aggressive. I’m going to go with they’re collectively not healthy.

Gibby puts up a 0.971 sv % and we are shutout with the loss. It's kinda sad. I hope it's just a flu bug that affect a few players, which affects the rest of the team play.

A couple of bad habits reappeared in this game. Mac being too aggressive in the OZone to become a trailer again. Odd man rush that left Fowler pointing to the puck carrier rather than engage and close the gap on the puck carrier. Did I mention seeing odd man rushes? Gibby saved our asses out there. Z was mostly muted in this game. Our PP was muted.

 

[Ducks DVM]

I dunno. @CrazyDuck4u has a point that when Carlsson or Z lose the faceoff, then they're immediately defending despite starting in the OZone. If Carlsson doesn't have the energy, then that top line is muted. It's going to be a long and arduous season for the top line if they can't win FOs or develop a tenacity for winning puck battles.

I’m not disagreeing. I think that’s taking a toll on Terry and Zegras’ production as much or more than anything else. But I’m not convinced that they’re not going to keep making him improve.

Zegras has also been hit garbage taking faceoffs. I think wing play isn’t helping that faceoff %

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Gibby puts up a 0.971 sv % and we are shutout with the loss. It's kinda sad. I hope it's just a flu bug that affect a few players, which affects the rest of the team play.

A couple of bad habits reappeared in this game. Mac being too aggressive in the OZone to become a trailer again. Odd man rush that left Fowler pointing to the puck carrier rather than engage and close the gap on the puck carrier. Did I mention seeing odd man rushes? Gibby saved our asses out there. Z was mostly muted in this game. Our PP was muted.

Z has been in a lot of games this year.. He needs to start producing..

Gibby puts up a 0.971 sv % and we are shutout with the loss. It's kinda sad. I hope it's just a flu bug that affect a few players, which affects the rest of the team play.

A couple of bad habits reappeared in this game. Mac being too aggressive in the OZone to become a trailer again. Odd man rush that left Fowler pointing to the puck carrier rather than engage and close the gap on the puck carrier. Did I mention seeing odd man rushes? Gibby saved our asses out there. Z was mostly muted in this game. Our PP was muted.

Gibby played great today.... Im not going to take that from him. But the goal that went in.. Was because he was swimming again.. Everytime they crash his crease.. He starts swimming and does spins and shit.. He needs to stop that...

 

[pbgoalie]

Probably good dose of reality before they face San Jose. Have to play full games

 

[Deuce22]

Zegras isn't a winger. He's a fish out of water, watching Terry play with the puck. He's not a good forechecker. His elite skills are passing, vision, and hands. Skating in on the forecheck or battling on the wall with bigger D isn't what he is good at.

 

[snowave]

Pens played good.
We were a bit in La la land
Terrible passing
Many lost battles
Bad puck luck all around. Just found pens sticks and stayed off ours.
Gibby great, except that goal he gave up

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Probably good dose of reality before they face San Jose. Have to play full games

Oh yah.. Gotta make a habit to play hard no matter who they are playing..

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Tough loss. Kinda played like they did when they won games but didn’t pull off the late game heroics. Can’t always rely on that if you want to be a good team.

PP continues to look absolutely awful. A average PP can get you a goal in a game like today but when you have the power kill that Anaheim has, its just a momentum killer.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Gibby played great today.... Im not going to take that from him. But the goal that went in.. Was because he was swimming again.. Everytime they crash his crease.. He starts swimming and does spins and shit.. He needs to stop that...

That's fine. One goal let in, but what about all the odd-men rushes that he stopped? The goal allowed was an odd-man rush too, btw. He stopped 34 out of 35 shots, keeping us in the game. He helped the PK stay perfect.

Are you that focused on his one miscue that you missed all of his spectacular saves the rest of the game? If that's so, when where you're fanatical ripping on our offense? Did the offense do anything? Nope. Not one damned goal to help out Gibby, even when a backup came into the game, the offense couldn't get one damned goal to even earn a point. The team had 3 PP opportunities and still nothing.

Angered focus on Gibby while going 34 out of 35 is foolish.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Z has been in a lot of games this year.. He needs to start producing..


Gibby played great today.... Im not going to take that from him. But the goal that went in.. Was because he was swimming again.. Everytime they crash his crease.. He starts swimming and does spins and shit.. He needs to stop that...

The goal went in because Fowler had zero awareness

 

[70sSanO]

It will be interesting to see how they respond, especially against a weaker team.

I think the only concern I have is if the offense falls off and goals become a luxury. We all remember the last couple of years, especially last season, when we couldn’t score for long stretches.

John

 

[Kalv]

Not to sound like a lip reader, but in the 3rd period Leo was heavy breathing even AFTER the long TV break, just before the faceoff. Next to him were players who seemed more or less fine. Looked like dude is gassed, hope it's the extra training related.

Overall that "top" line is not working. Too soft and too sloppy, no matter how exciting they are together. There is just no results. I hope it gets mixed with Rico's line a bit, good opportunity to push Killorn up, IMO

 

[caliamad]

I’d really like to see Zegras and terry split, they both need an offensive minded grinder to do the dirty work.

Put zegras Carlson Killorn and Henrique with terry silf or jokes.

Try that for 5 games and if that doesn’t click better I’d consider breaking up Mac’s line.

Mac always had good chemistry with terry and another 2 way player.

 

[Deuce22]

That's fine. One goal let in, but what about all the odd-men rushes that he stopped? The goal allowed was an odd-man rush too, btw. He stopped 34 out of 35 shots, keeping us in the game. He helped the PK stay perfect.

Are you that focused on his one miscue that you missed all of his spectacular saves the rest of the game? If that's so, when where you're fanatical ripping on our offense? Did the offense do anything? Nope. Not one damned goal to help out Gibby, even when a backup came into the game, the offense couldn't get one damned goal to even earn a point. The team had 3 PP opportunities and still nothing.

Angered focus on Gibby while going 34 out of 35 is foolish.

Gibson was great, but it doesn't have to be black or white. It's OK to acknowledge that he was great but also note that the goal he allowed wasn't good. There doesn't have to be blame assigned to the goalie or the offense, either. A balanced assessment would be that the goalie was outstanding tonight despite letting in a soft goal. The offense had chances but couldn't put anything in the net. No scapegoat required.

 

[robbieboy3686]

It doesn't work because none of them are big or physical enough to win the 1 on 1 battles against bigger and tougher players. They need some sandpaper it's too easy to defend them

They need killorn

 

[ducks8]

Man, Gibson could have stopped 59-60 shots and some of you would still blame Gibson for not scoring a goal. He's gotten 11 goals of support in total. Dude would have vezina caliber numbers if he had a positive W-L record with 3 shutouts already.

If this is the Gibson the ducks are going to get every game. They will definitely win more games then lose

 

[Goose of Reason]

Not to sound like a lip reader, but in the 3rd period Leo was heavy breathing even AFTER the long TV break, just before the faceoff. Next to him were players who seemed more or less fine. Looked like dude is gassed, hope it's the extra training related.

Overall that "top" line is not working. Too soft and too sloppy, no matter how exciting they are together. There is just no results. I hope it gets mixed with Rico's line a bit, good opportunity to push Killorn up, IMO

There's been multiple times where that line crosses the blue line 3 strong and they all just pull up, nobody driving the center or going in deep and it leads to no offense because the trailing forwards can just catch up and neutralize it. As fun as that lines potential is they need someone to do the dirty work.

 

[ScarTroy]

Yeah I’m ready to break up the 3rd line in order to get more out of Zegras, Carlsson and Terry. That 3rd line is looking great, but I don’t want to keep them together for chemistry sake, at the expense of the guys who should be our top scorers. The first line with those three is just too one dimensional.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Zegs should be playing centre, i feel like he's a lot more effective offensively from there. He is very weak on the wall as well so having him in the middle of the ice would also be good from that perspective.

 

[70sSanO]

I would not breakup Carlsson and Terry. If nothing else Terry is the only one shooting on that line not to mention scoring.

Drop Zegras to third line center to hopefully get him going. Right now he is a shell of his old self. If he continues on this path he’ll become Sonny Milano 2.0; albeit a much overpaid version.

John

 

[ducks8]

I would not breakup Carlsson and Terry. If nothing else Terry is the only one shooting on that line not to mention scoring.

Drop Zegras to third line center to hopefully get him going. Right now he is a shell of his old self. If he continues on this path he’ll become Sonny Milano 2.0; albeit a much overpaid version.

John

I'd love to see Zegras with Killorn. Think that could be a good combo. Would give the Ducks 3 scoring lines

 

[Static]

I fell asleep between periods two and three and I'm disappointed we couldn't take advantage of the goalie change. Pittsburgh was doing a nice job limiting dangerous shots.

 

[branmuffin17]

Didn't see anyone post the stat cards...

I would like to start seeing some consistency in the order of effectiveness, as it stands our players are flip-flopping between good and bad nights, though amazingly I think Strome and Vatrano are pretty regularly near the top, with McT struggling a bit more this game?