Franchise History: #21/#22 Forward (tiebreaker) and #11 Defenseman

[Elvs]

If you've missed the "rules", the original thread can be found here.

In this poll - vote for one forward AND one defenseman = two votes in total

NOTE: In a couple of posts below, you'll find links to the stats (Eliteprospects) of each player in the polls. Those currently in the mix are highlighted in jade colors. It might be helpful for anyone who doesn't remember some of these players, or who wants to refresh their memory.

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Final rankings:

Forwards:
1.

Teemu Selanne
2.

Ryan Getzlaf
3.

Paul Kariya
4.

Corey Perry
5.

Andy McDonald
6.

Steve Rucchin
7.

Ryan Kesler
8.

Bobby Ryan
9.

Samuel Pahlsson
10.

Jakob Silfverberg
11.

Chris Kunitz
12.

Rickard Rakell
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13.

Andrew Cogliano
14.

Rob Niedermayer
15.

Saku Koivu
16.

Petr Sykora
17.

Adam Henrique
18.

Matt Cullen
19.

Todd Marchant
20.

Joffrey Lupul

Defensemen:
1.

Scott Niedermayer
2.

Chris Pronger
3.

Francois Beauchemin
4.

Hampus Lindholm
5.

Cam Fowler
6.

Lubomir Visnovsky
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7.

Ruslan Salei
8.

Keith Carney
9.

Josh Manson
10.

Toni Lydman

Goaltenders:
1.

Jean-Sebastien Giguere
2.

John Gibson
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3.

Guy Hebert

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[Elvs]

Team A

Kariya -

Rucchin -

Selanne
Ryan -

Getzlaf -

Perry

McDonald -

Kesler -

Rakell

Kunitz -

Pahlsson -

Silfverberg

Beauchemin -

S. Niedermayer

Fowler -

Pronger
Lindholm -

Visnovsky

Giguere

Gibson

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Team B

Cogliano -

Koivu -

Sykora
X -

Henrique -

R. Niedermayer
X -

Cullen -

Lupul
X -

Marchant - X

Carney -

Salei

Lydman -

Manson
X - X

Hebert
X

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Team C

X - X - X
X - X - X
X - X - X
X - X - X

X - X
X - X
X - X

X
X

 

[Elvs]

Here's every player who meets the criterias (in order of games played).

Egg plant = already ranked
Jade = currently in the polls
Black = can be nominated

Forwards:
Ryan Getzlaf (1053)
Corey Perry (988)
Teemu Selanne (966)
Steve Rucchin (616)
Paul Kariya (606)
Andrew Cogliano (584)
Samuel Pahlsson (527)
Jakob Silfverberg (510)
Rickard Rakell (447)
Matt Cullen (427)
Todd Marchant (421)
Andy McDonald (391)
Rob Niedermayer (382)
Bobby Ryan (378)
George Parros (356)
Ryan Kesler (346)
Joe Sacco (333)
Saku Koivu (332)
Matt Beleskey (329)
Chris Kunitz (313)
Mike Leclerc (291)
Nick Ritchie (287)
Marty McInnis (272)
Travis Moen (261)
Garry Valk (246)
Ted Drury (232)
Stu Grimson (231)
Adam Henrique (210)
Dan Bylsma (209)
Joffrey Lupul (205)
Patrick Maroon (204)
Kyle Palmieri (198)
Ondrej Kase (198)
Petr Sykora (197)
Jeff Nielsen (191)
Nick Bonino (189)
Shaun Van Allen (174)
Bob Corkum (168)
Nate Thompson (159)
Marc Chouinard (159)
Todd Ewen (153)
Peter Douris (151)
Antti Aalto (151)
Dustin Penner (150)
Patrik Carnback (148)
Jason Krog (147)
Jason Blake (147)
Derek Grant (146)
Patric Kjellberg (141)
Tony Hrkac (140)
Ryan Carter (138)
German Titov (137)
Antoine Vermette (136)
Stanislav Chistov (136)
Tomas Sandstrom (135)
Chris Wagner (133)
Warren Rychel (133)
Carter Rowney (133)
Devante Smith-Pelly (129)
Ladislav Kohn (128)
Daniel Winnik (124)

Defensemen:
Cam Fowler (679)
Ruslan Salei (594)
Francois Beauchemin (592)
Hampus Lindholm (503)
Vitaly Vishnevski (416)
Josh Manson (385)
Scott Niedermayer (371)
Jason Marshall (370)
Oleg Tverdovsky (324)
Pavel Trnka (322)
Niclas Havelid (310)
Bobby Dollas (305)
Sami Vatanen (280)
Keith Carney (271)
Dave Karpa (245)
Fredrik Olausson (244)
Luca Sbisa (227)
Chris Pronger (220)
Sheldon Brookbank (215)
Kevin Bieksa (211)
Randy Ladouceur (188)
Toni Lydman (187)
Sean O'Donnell (182)
Joe DiPenta (171)
Brandon Montour (169)
Jason York (168)
Lubomir Visnovsky (165)
Ben Lovejoy (150)
Kevin Haller (149)
Korbinian Holzer (145)
Kent Huskins (142)
Pascal Trepanier (139)
Kurt Sauer (135)
Clayton Stoner (133)
Dmitri Mironov (128)

Goaltenders:
Jean-Sebastien Giguere (446)
Guy Hebert (441)
Jonas Hiller (326)
John Gibson (287)
Frederik Andersen (125)
Mikhail Shtalenkov (122)
Ilya Bryzgalov (77)
Ryan Miller (71)
Martin Gerber (54)
Dominic Roussel (51)

 

[DigiDuck]

Bonino - clinched a playoff series with an OT goal.
Moen - Cup champ. Blindly KO'd Shea Weber.

Give me Moen. And Olausson. One of the few guys in franchise history that could QB a PP effectively.

 

[Paul4587]

Havelid was a really good top 4 guy for a few years for us. Was outstanding in 02-03 and led all blue liners in points while being really good defensively. I also like Olausson - he was a great PP QB but wasn’t as well rounded.

For the forward I went Moen. Without his performance the 06-07 playoffs he doesn’t get my vote but that was a pretty important year in franchise history.

 

[Elvs]

Fun fact, Havelid has twin sons (Mattias and Hugo) who could be early picks in the 2022 draft.

 

[bsu]

Moen Vatanen

 

[JabbaJabba]

I think Vatanen is a bit underrated. Like Lydman played for two and a half season for Anaheim and I would say only the first season was truly great year for him. 2nd was fine and 3rd was ruined by injury and he retired due to it. I would pick him over Manson at this point. Probably challenges Carney as well who I don't remember that well to be honest though.

 

[Paul4587]

I think Vatanen is a bit underrated. Like Lydman played for two and a half season for Anaheim and I would say only the first season was truly great year for him. 2nd was fine and 3rd was ruined by injury and he retired due to it. I would pick him over Manson at this point. Probably challenges Carney as well who I don't remember that well to be honest though.

Problem with Vatanen to me is that he only really played well on the third pairing here. He was great alongside Stoner and on special teams for a couple of years but by the time he had moved up into a top 4 role his shoulder was f***ed and he really struggled.

The likes of Havelid, Manson Carney, Olausson etc have all played and somewhat excelled in top pairing minutes. Vatanen unfortunately was so beat up when he was used in that role that he wasn’t effective taking tougher matchups.

 

[AngelDuck]

Problem with Vatanen to me is that he only really played well on the third pairing here. He was great alongside Stoner and on special teams for a couple of years but by the time he had moved up into a top 4 role his shoulder was f***ed and he really struggled.

The likes of Havelid, Manson Carney, Olausson etc have all played and somewhat excelled in top pairing minutes. Vatanen unfortunately was so beat up when he was used in that role that he wasn’t effective taking tougher matchups.

I get your point but it’s worth noting that He was mostly only on the 3rd pair because he was so good at playing with guys like Allen and Stoner. He wasn’t actually the 5th or 6th best dman on any of those teams. He was comfortably a better player than Lovejoy and Manson didn’t really pass him until the injuries as you noted. Despres was maybe better for a 20 game stretch that one season but it’s debatable.

overall I’d say he was the clear #4 for most of his time in Anaheim behind Fowler Beauchemin and Lindholm