I quoted the information first hand that included the entire data set, not some second hand article, Did you even click on the link I provided?
Wait, who cares about the "entire data set"? My "2nd hand article" was already giving us a good idea that the familial income in Ottawa was slightly better than in the Quebec area. The source was Statistiques Canada so reliable enough.
So what does your "entire data set" reveals more? Does it add anything to what was said?
You realize you were the one who suddenly quoted me saying "
How about actual Statistics Canada data?";
even though I was already saying the same thing?
You'd be wrong there too.
Like I already said, I would hope so! But it's not the sentiment I have from talking with people from Ontario or simply reading on the internet. Even some people here (Sens fans) talked about it before.
Just an example (and of course there's s a sample size), this survey just after the ECF run in 2017 :
Infographic: Canada's favourite NHL team by region, generation, sex - Sportsnet.ca
And you see later down in that article,
in Ontario it's 60% Leafs, 11% Habs and 7% Sens
So you're basically saying to everyone here that can read you,
that there is more Sens fans in Cornwall, for example,
than Habs + Leafs fans? Because I was saying the opposite and you said "I'd be wrong there too"
I'd be curious to hear people about that. lol
Note : I remember in 2008-09 (so not long after the Cup Finals), I went on a road trip with 2 friends who are not much of hockey fans and brought them to the CTC. In the middle of the game, they were asking/laughing "why is the other team (it was the Lightning) getting more cheers than the Sens?"
Also, not 100% related, but if you're too sensible, don't read that :
You hate Sens fans too? Here’s why
It is easier to fix the parking issues at CTC than building a new rink. I've been far more games at the CTC than you've been and when I've gone to sold out games I've usually been able to quickly get out of the parking lot.
I'm from Europe and went to a few European stadiums, so you have to understand that the CTC game experience, location, logistic, marketing, vibe, etc doesn't impress me much. But you seem to think it's ideal so all is well! I'm sure the CTC is going to be great in 10-15 years!
You realize that it's the only evidence of what NHL attendance in Quebec City will be like
25 years ago? Evidence? lol I don't know if Ottawa is the same as it was back then but let me tell you that Montreal and Quebec have evolved a lot since. Also, by the way, there's 2 more million people in GTA now
They haven't build an arena in Quebec just for fun, studies were made, the QC region (plus all the whole Province like I said several times already) would easily support a team there. No way the QC province would let Quebec City lose their team again. They just can't get a franchise there as the NHL has bigger markets to prioritize and they don't really want to move teams (heck just look at Arizona, they still have a team).
I've already said ownership was crap. It was two paragraphs above what you quoted. Try to keep up here please.
Sorry, you seem so smart that it's very hard to keep up indeed
Ok so you're saying ownership is the only problem and I was saying there's more problems than that? I didn't know that not agreeing with you (or just partially) meant not being able to "keep up"
Yes, because rich people love to overpay for things when it's clear Melnyk is going to be out sooner or later. If Quebec City is such a great market why didn't it bid on an expansion franchise?
But that's it, it's harder for smaller markets and believe it or not, Ottawa is one of them. It's not as simple as the "population" and "the annual family income". It's your potential customer base who will spend money on your product vs the competition. There's a LIMITATION for this business and potential buyers know that... I never said Quebec would be a "great" market, I said it would be similar to Winnipeg
An arena downtown Ottawa could really change the outcome but maybe you're right, that business is better in downtown Kanata!
Please improve your reading comprehension skills so that I don't have to correct your false statements.
Mind my business on a discussion forum? Maybe get a clue on what this place is for
lol nothing is more ironic than someone throwing insults when he's not even "getting it"
In my first post on this subject (moving Ottawa to Quebec), I said :
"I have no idea what will happen and I'm not giving my opinion on that"
I was more interested in giving insight about the Quebec market. Then the same poster I was already discussing with replies and then I tell him :
"So not sure why you are quoting me and saying you don't see a canadian team moving to a worse market? I have not talked about that at all. My only opinion was that I would like to see a NHL team in both cities."
So I already said twice that I was not talking about that move and then you accuse me of being "disingenuous"? Here's what you said to that :
Very disingenuous of you. If you're just talking about Quebec City having an NHL team, why are you doing that in the Ottawa Senators forum? Go do it in the Business of Hockey or NHL Talk forums.
Are you for real? I was already talking about the Quebec/Montreal markets with other people earlier in this thread so yes I can tell you to mind your own business. Thank you and have a nice day