Cootsfanclub
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Confirmed with Link: Flyers re-sign Carter Hart 3x$3.979m
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Cootsfanclub
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This is going to look like a bargain pretty quick I think.
Rich Nixon
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Just had to get the jersey number in the cap hit.
landsbergfan
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If Hart returns to normal this is a bargain.
If he can bounce back and do well, even if it's not perfect, I think it's perfectly fine. Glad it's done.
Cootsfanclub
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John Gibson got 3x$2.3 after 2 very good seasons. Hart is coming off a bad season (I don't think it's entirely his fault), we paid a premium for his first two seasons and acted like last season didn't exist.
BernieParent
In misery of redwings of suckage for a long time
I wonder if Fletcher was ever a vacuum salesman because several of his deals look pretty good in them. The big raise isn't out of the question and I would call it fair to bet on Hart developing into the franchise goaltender that the Flyers have needed for decades, but given Hart's historically bad numbers last season Fletcher didn't manage to save cap space in the immediate term nor did he extend the deal to where (IMHO) we will be looking at a Couturier-like steal contract. Add to this the fact that an arbitration hearing with Sanheim is pending with a tick over $4 million to spend and Fletcher is sitting in the corner of the room with a near-empty paint can.
Rich Nixon
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For context, that was about 3.2% of the cap when Gibson signed. Hart's deal is about 4.9% now.
FLYguy3911
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6.5 for a goalie tandem isn’t bad until you consider they were the worst two in the league last year.
The “if he bounces back” tag lines don’t mean much when he was the worst starting goalie in the league last year. They got no discount on the deal. Even if the deal does become a “bargain”, with the way it is structured, (yet) another 3 year bridge(!), the next contract will be massive without the multiple RFA years balancing out the AAV. This guy just does not understand value. He is incapable of getting any.
In the flat cap world, it’s an overpay. There is a very small chance the Flyers get real surplus value out of this deal with plenty of downside risk considering his most recent year and the nature of the goalie position.
The “if he bounces back” tag lines don’t mean much when he was the worst starting goalie in the league last year. They got no discount on the deal. Even if the deal does become a “bargain”, with the way it is structured, (yet) another 3 year bridge(!), the next contract will be massive without the multiple RFA years balancing out the AAV. This guy just does not understand value. He is incapable of getting any.
In the flat cap world, it’s an overpay. There is a very small chance the Flyers get real surplus value out of this deal with plenty of downside risk considering his most recent year and the nature of the goalie position.
Where's your Harvard degree? Thats what I thought, lol.
That little over 4 million left for Sanheim now is very scary.
deeshamrock
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It's a little higher than I would have liked. And given they didn't get a good backup to support him, I hope that doesns't affect his confidence level. In a very competitive divison, where there will be a lot of pressure to win to keep pace, it could go south quickliy, esp since AV's ineffective , inefficent run and gun system puts a lot of pressure on goaltending.
But he is very young, at at 22, given how it takes most goalies years to grow into their complete game, even if he has ups and downs, the hope is that his game will grow and mature over time.
I just wish we had a different coach, AV did damage to him and other young players last year and if the Flyers struggle, that won't bode well.
But he is very young, at at 22, given how it takes most goalies years to grow into their complete game, even if he has ups and downs, the hope is that his game will grow and mature over time.
I just wish we had a different coach, AV did damage to him and other young players last year and if the Flyers struggle, that won't bode well.
BritainStix
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Surprised at the hit but I get it. Honestly he didn't earn this with the way he played last year but the hope is, I assume, that he will very quickly outplay this contract.
BernieParent
In misery of redwings of suckage for a long time
We can all be very thankful that offer sheets are so underused. I am curious what the outcome would be if the arbitrator determines an amount for Sanheim that exceeds the available cap. Yes, the Flyers can sit over cap in the off-season but an additional move would have to be made.
Petr Svoboda Mullet
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How do they afford Sanheim now? Seems like a slight over pay for Hart given his latest season.
I see 14 forwards, 7 d and 2 goalies with Sanheim included on Cap Friendly. So maybe they ditch a forward for league min but don't they usually like a little space for wiggle room into the season?
BiggE
SELL THE DAMN TEAM
I’m ok with this signing, but getting Sanheim signed now, without making any other moves, is gonna be a bitch.
Even a one year, 3.75 million deal leaves them with a minuscule cap cushion of less than 300K based on a 22 man roster.
This is not good
Even a one year, 3.75 million deal leaves them with a minuscule cap cushion of less than 300K based on a 22 man roster.
This is not good
FLYguy3911
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FlyTimmo
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Not good. Should have been able to get a discount after last year. Strange deal.
landsbergfan
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Assuming Laczynski goes to the Phantoms and Frost and Allison are up, York and Zamula with Phantoms and Morin is up, it's just under 5 million in cap space
Chinatown88
Daniels QB3
I guess being savage takes no days off. But dang I felt a little bad for FLYguy after reading the comment chain.
