Proposal: Flyers & Bruins

Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by IhateEveryone, Aug 16, 2017.

View Users: View Users
  1. IhateEveryone

    IhateEveryone Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    140
    Trophy Points:
    46
    :bruins: Shayne Gostisbehere + 2018 1st Or 2019 Bostons choice

    Acquire

    :flyers: David Pastrnak


    Boston could use a nice young Defense man

    Flyers have a surplus of young defense man that look pretty promising so i think they can afford to trade one for some major forward help.

    Pastrnak would steller on Claude Giroux wing


    Didn't see there was allready a flyers boston thread on David Pastrnak MY APOLOGIZES
     
  2. Banded Peak

    Banded Peak Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2015
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Bruins don't need any young defenseman.

    They need Pastrnak more. Pass.
     
  3. Stizzle

    Stizzle Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2012
    Messages:
    8,819
    Likes Received:
    6,259
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Flyers overpay big time. I'm not sure why we are including a 1st. No, thanks. We'll keep Ghost.
     
  4. BackWithaVengeance

    BackWithaVengeance Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2008
    Messages:
    2,380
    Likes Received:
    645
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    DHL Depot Manager
    Location:
    Germany
    1 for 1 I am open for a discussion.

    The 1st rounder makes it a "No" for me.
     
  5. riverhawkey91

    riverhawkey91 Registered User

    Joined:
    May 22, 2011
    Messages:
    1,023
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Lowell, MA
    Love Gostisbehere and wanted him so bad after seeing him in college.

    Unfortunately, the Bruins are pretty set on their right side for the future with McAvoy/Carlo in the top 4, and ultimately his skill-set is fairly redundant with Krug on the team anyways. They can't really afford to move their only good RW for anything less than a legit #1D, even if they end up having to add.

    FWIW I don't think that's enough value anyways. I think Krug is the better player between the two, but even if you consider them as equals, there's no way I'd move Pastrnak for Krug + 1st. Especially once you factor in the addition of Pastrnak + Elliot + progression by Konecny/Provorov and maybe Patrick's impact, there's a real good chance neither of those are even lottery picks. I'm not sure value-wise adding even both picks get you there.
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2017
  6. WolvesAndWings

    WolvesAndWings Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2017
    Messages:
    485
    Likes Received:
    218
    Trophy Points:
    46
    And elite wingers don't return #1 Dmen anymore (see: Hall for Larsson), so with the rest of your post in mind I just dont see any trade happening here that benefits both teams.
     
  7. sharksisles4

    sharksisles4 Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2017
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    9
    Bruins already have something similar in Krug.

    IMO neither side would do this. PHI finally has that defensive depth they've been looking for all these years.
     
  8. BruinsFan1990

    BruinsFan1990 Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2016
    Messages:
    1,986
    Likes Received:
    831
    Trophy Points:
    95
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Andover, MA
    Really doesn't make sense for either side. Bruins are low on RW depth as it is.
     
  9. SpeakingOfTheDevils

    SpeakingOfTheDevils Devils Advocate

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    10,594
    Likes Received:
    2,224
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Occupation:
    N/A
    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    Both sides decline.

    Flyers can't really entertain trading Ghost unless/until their other young defensemen (Sanheim/Myers/Morin/Hagg) prove themselves.
     
  10. Starat327

    Starat327 Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    Messages:
    8,837
    Likes Received:
    5,263
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    I wish we could sticky this. Thanks for understanding.
     
  11. Chief Ranger

    Chief Ranger Try Not To Suck

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2014
    Messages:
    6,625
    Likes Received:
    123
    Trophy Points:
    67
    Location:
    New York
    I think both sides would decline this.
     
  12. IhateEveryone

    IhateEveryone Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    822
    Likes Received:
    140
    Trophy Points:
    46
    usually when both teams decline its a good trade says the hockey world Torts "When both teams feel like they lost and feel like the other team got the better deal , its a good trade" Lol
     
  13. Tim Vezina Thomas

    Tim Vezina Thomas Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2009
    Messages:
    10,968
    Likes Received:
    332
    Trophy Points:
    124
    Gender:
    Male
    That works for value. The Bruins wouldn't trade a winger for a d man, they don't need a d man.

    Your proposal doesn't even sniff the position needs of the Bruins.
     
  14. VoynovsParoleOfficer

    VoynovsParoleOfficer Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    845
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    19
    Occupation:
    Zuccarellos speech therap
    that would be a steal for flyers even given Ghost's friendly contract..flyers dont need to stack the pipeline much more trading ghost and a 1st for Pasta gets them closer to contention
     
  15. Starat327

    Starat327 Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    Messages:
    8,837
    Likes Received:
    5,263
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    If you operate under the assumption that our prospects will all pan out, sure. But we dont have the privilege of using the crystal ball, so I wouldn't make this move. If we make this and the prospects dont turn out as intended, it takes us evern further from contention, as we'd be trading one of our only 3 top 4 defenseman for a RW, which is already a position of strength (Voracek, Simmonds, Konecny are all RW).
     
  16. SpeakingOfTheDevils

    SpeakingOfTheDevils Devils Advocate

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    10,594
    Likes Received:
    2,224
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Occupation:
    N/A
    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    Yes, it should be stickied.

    Hextall has molded the Flyers' D pipeline much like Shero has molded the Devils' forward pool. Gostisbehere can't be moved until Sanheim/Myers/Morin/Hagg excel at the NHL level, just like, say, Zacha can't be moved until Hischier/McLeod/Quenneville succeed in the bigs.

    Both teams have a promising young surplus, but that surplus isn't proven yet. Trading from the stock today is an unwise gamble. Slow and steady wins the race.
     
  17. VoynovsParoleOfficer

    VoynovsParoleOfficer Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    845
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    19
    Occupation:
    Zuccarellos speech therap
    all very fair points, in other threads i had mentioned how moving Ghost would be ideal in 2 years when he bounces back like we know he will and some of the aforementioned guys prove their worth but if Pasta was readily available in front of me i would be inclined to take it and run. Maybe TK could try LW and if not maybe you look at trading a RW on the roster...not very often a 21 year old 70 point player is dangled out there (if the reports are true)
     
  18. Starat327

    Starat327 Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    Messages:
    8,837
    Likes Received:
    5,263
    Trophy Points:
    126
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Konecny is already playing off-wing, which means acquiring another RW is less than ideal. Pasta is an improvement over at least 2 of the 3, so im not saying it cant be done. But theres also the issue of Salary cap to consider as well. If Pasta wants 7, that means Him, G and Vora combine for like 23 mil. Given our youth, its manageable, but far from ideal.

    I'd explore the idea, and while i wouldn't stop following the team if they moved Ghost for Pasta (assuming they have a Simmonds trade lined up after (Spitballing: Vatanen+(?)), It seems like it would necessitate a lot of 'additional' moves to re-balance the roster.
     
  19. Curufinwe

    Curufinwe Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2013
    Messages:
    35,936
    Likes Received:
    6,024
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Gender:
    Male
    I think the Bruins would be insane to move Pastrnak for anything but a huge overpayment. He scored 70 points as a 20 year old for god's sake.
     
  20. Number1RedWingsFan52

    Number1RedWingsFan52 Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2013
    Messages:
    30,006
    Likes Received:
    1,015
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Hospital worker
    Location:
    Winter Haven Florida
    Yup agree with the other posters, Both team decline the trade.
     
  21. Shootertooter

    Shootertooter Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2016
    Messages:
    1,977
    Likes Received:
    335
    Trophy Points:
    79

    I odd trade does not make it a trend to expect to carry on forever.

    I think the OP is on the right track for fair value. Ghost and a 1st is close in value. Whether it address the Bruins needs is another issue.
     
  22. Montecristo

    Montecristo Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2012
    Messages:
    4,585
    Likes Received:
    449
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Boston doesn't have a need for a defensemen with ghosts profile. Krug is very similar to him and it's not common a team carries 2 mostly offensive and undersized guys. They'd need a dman more polished defensively left shot with strong skating and size
     
  23. lancer247

    lancer247 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2007
    Messages:
    3,841
    Likes Received:
    96
    Trophy Points:
    101
    I don't see how Ghost + 1st is close value. Looking at what dmen signed for this offseason and what Ghost is signed for has to come into play.

    Obviously, the Flyers have to add a plus but a 1st seems steep.
     
  24. PatriceBergeronFan

    PatriceBergeronFan Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2011
    Messages:
    30,376
    Likes Received:
    3,108
    Trophy Points:
    175
    Location:
    USA
    I'd rather do the Simmonds trade in the other thread if Philly added a quality + to him.

    Not interested in this.
     

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"