Flyers' 2017-18 roster discussion, part 6

[The Madrigal]

I would imagine Weal is more priority but Hextall will kick tires on Williams to see if there's something potentially there if Weal looks to go elsewhere.

It looks pretty obvious to me that Weal is on his way out. Supposedly he has already visited with the Canucks and Canadiens and I just don't see Hextall getting into a bidding war for his services. In theory the Flyers could let him walk and not sign anyone and still have a fair amount of depth at forward.

Lindblom - Giroux - Voracek
Filppula - Patrick - Simmonds
Raffl - Couturier - Konecny
Laughton - Lehtera - Weise
Read
Vecchione (with the Phantoms)

 

[mja]

It looks pretty obvious to me that Weal is on his way out. Supposedly he has already visited with the Canucks and Canadiens and I just don't see Hextall getting into a bidding war for his services. In theory the Flyers could let him walk and not sign anyone and still have a fair amount of depth at forward.

Lindblom - Giroux - Voracek
Filppula - Patrick - Simmonds
Raffl - Couturier - Konecny
Laughton - Lehtera - Weise
Read
Vecchione (with the Phantoms)

Yeah, even if Weal walks, the forward depth is fine for the moment. Hextall seems to really think that Laughton is going to be on the team this year. I don't think one winger is going to be the difference between this team doing damage in the playoffs or not. I see them as a bubble playoff team regardless until the defense becomes more established.

 

[Icedog2735]

Actually a lineup from Carchidi that I could agree with ... maybe one of two differences

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...delphia-flyers-projected-lineup-20170626.html

 

[Modus0perandi]

Problems:
1) Way too many future assets for Duchene. Hexy made it pretty clear that we're not going all-in to win now.
2) Why is he playing wing?
3) No trading Couturier right now if we're smart. Overall team defense will suffer.

In the past, Duchene has played LW on Team Canada with Giroux centering the line.

 

[duffy9748]

I'm under the impression both Hextall and Hakstol are envisioning Laughton as the center on the fourth line. With the quality of 2-way centerman on the team and in the system, Giroux should be put in the best position moving forward to focus on producing offense.

Lindblom-G-Voracek
Weal-Patrick-Simmonds
Flip-Couturier-Konecny
Lehtera/Weise-Laughton-Raffl

 

[Modus0perandi]

The offense is not very good but the D can be great.

Provorov is the future of this team. Call it rebuilding, moving things around, or whatever the f*** you want to call it, but this team should be focused around Ivan, with a defense-first mentality. If Philly keeps focused on G and Jake, or any one of the offensive prospects not named Patrick, the team is doomed. Giroux is not the answer. Most likely, he will not be in Philly to win a Stanley Cup (unless Hexy makes big moves now to win now, which probably isn't happening for better or worse).

Provorov the Truth.

 

[David St Hubbins]

I'm under the impression both Hextall and Hakstol are envisioning Laughton as the center on the fourth line. With the quality of 2-way centerman on the team and in the system, Giroux should be put in the best position moving forward to focus on producing offense.

Lindblom-G-Voracek
Weal-Patrick-Simmonds
Flip-Couturier-Konecny
Lehtera/Weise-Laughton-Raffl

I just dont see Laughton as a center. To me he is a LW, probably a good 3rd line LW with that speed and shot. But I have yet to see anything that makes me think he is a legitimate center.

 

[BernieParent]

Provorov is the future of this team. Call it rebuilding, moving things around, or whatever the f*** you want to call it, but this team should be focused around Ivan, with a defense-first mentality. If Philly keeps focused on G and Jake, or any one of the offensive prospects not named Patrick, the team is doomed. Giroux is not the answer. Most likely, he will not be in Philly to win a Stanley Cup (unless Hexy makes big moves now to win now, which probably isn't happening for better or worse).

Provorov the Truth.

I don't understand what point you are trying to make. 1C and 1D don't step on each other's toes. And at worst Giroux is holding down the 1C slot while Patrick establishes himself or another potential 1C emerges.

 

[mja]

Provorov is the future of this team. Call it rebuilding, moving things around, or whatever the f*** you want to call it, but this team should be focused around Ivan, with a defense-first mentality. If Philly keeps focused on G and Jake, or any one of the offensive prospects not named Patrick, the team is doomed. Giroux is not the answer. Most likely, he will not be in Philly to win a Stanley Cup (unless Hexy makes big moves now to win now, which probably isn't happening for better or worse).

Provorov the Truth.

You do realize that this is not an either/or, right?

Is it really that hard to envision a world where prime Patrick, Provorov, et al. lead the team to a cup with Giroux, Voracek, etc. in support?

 

[Striiker]

No guys, he's right.

Look at the last 10 cup winners.... all of them have a 1C OR 1D, not both!!!

If we keep Giroux we have to trade Provorov, if we keep Provorov then we must trade Giroux. It's the law.

 

[McNasty]

I'm hoping to see:

Lindblom-Couturier-Voracek
Raffl-Giroux-Konecny
Filppula-Patrick-Simmonds
Lehtera-Laughton-Weise

 

[The Madrigal]

Actually a lineup from Carchidi that I could agree with ... maybe one of two differences

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports...delphia-flyers-projected-lineup-20170626.html

He doesn't even have Raffl in the lineup and he has a couple of guys playing out of position. As per usual Carchidi is a few fries short of a happy meal with his nonsense.

 

[David St Hubbins]

He doesn't even have Raffl in the lineup and he has a couple of guys playing out of position. As per usual Carchidi is a few fries short of a happy meal with his nonsense.

I'm just impressed that he got the centers correct and put 2 wings on each line. Anything past that is gravy.

 

[The Madrigal]

I'm just impressed that he got the centers correct and put 2 wings on each line. Anything past that is gravy.

 

[The Madrigal]

Are there any websites these days like the old cap geek where you can put together lineups with the cap and everything?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Are there any websites these days like the old cap geek where you can put together lineups with the cap and everything?

https://capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/

 

[The Madrigal]

https://capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/

Thanks.

 

[The Madrigal]

FORWARDS (14)
O. Lindblom ($925,000) - C. Giroux ($8,275,000) - J. Voracek ($8,250,000)
V. Filppula ($5,000,000) - S. Couturier ($4,333,333) - W. Simmonds ($3,975,000)
T. Konecny ($894,167) - N. Patrick ($925,000) - J. Williams ($3,250,000)
M. Raffl ($2,350,000) - J. Lehtera ($4,700,000) - D. Weise ($2,350,000)
S. Laughton ($1,000,000)
M. Read ($3,625,000)


DEFENSE (7)
I. Provorov ($894,167) - A. MacDonald ($5,000,000)
S. Morin ($863,333) - R. Gudas ($3,350,000)
S. Gostisbehere ($4,500,000) - R. Hagg ($894,167)
B. Manning ($975,000)


GOALTENDER (2)
J. Bernier ($2,500,000) - M. Neuvirth ($2,500,000)


BUYOUTS
R. Umberger ($1,500,000) - I. Bryzgalov ($0)


DETAILS
Roster Size: 23
NHL Salary Cap: $75,000,000
Cap Hit: $72,829,167
Cap Space: $2,170,833

 

[Hurricane28]

Its a shame Flippula doesn't really have a spot on this team anymore. Not sure how he will fare on the wing.

 

[Beef Invictus]

How can I kidnap Hakstol, drive him to the woods, dig a hole, and sit in it (naked) with him to spend four straight days telling him that he needs to have Filp on LW with Couts and Simmonds? I really wanna see how that line looks.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

How can I kidnap Hakstol, drive him to the woods, dig a hole, and sit in it (naked) with him to spend four straight days telling him that he needs to have Filp on LW with Couts and Simmonds? I really wanna see how that line looks.

just tell him You are taking him to a secret dinner roast in his honor. Along the way stop and get him a coffee and slip him some mind suggesting drugs in the coffee where he would listen to any idea you give him.

 

[Hurricane28]

How can I kidnap Hakstol, drive him to the woods, dig a hole, and sit in it (naked) with him to spend four straight days telling him that he needs to have Filp on LW with Couts and Simmonds? I really wanna see how that line looks.

Tell him Chris Vandevelde will be there

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

FORWARDS (14)
O. Lindblom ($925,000) - C. Giroux ($8,275,000) - J. Voracek ($8,250,000)
V. Filppula ($5,000,000) - S. Couturier ($4,333,333) - W. Simmonds ($3,975,000)
T. Konecny ($894,167) - N. Patrick ($925,000) - J. Williams ($3,250,000)
M. Raffl ($2,350,000) - J. Lehtera ($4,700,000) - D. Weise ($2,350,000)
S. Laughton ($1,000,000)
M. Read ($3,625,000)


DEFENSE (7)
I. Provorov ($894,167) - A. MacDonald ($5,000,000)
S. Morin ($863,333) - R. Gudas ($3,350,000)
S. Gostisbehere ($4,500,000) - R. Hagg ($894,167)
B. Manning ($975,000)


GOALTENDER (2)
J. Bernier ($2,500,000) - M. Neuvirth ($2,500,000)


BUYOUTS
R. Umberger ($1,500,000) - I. Bryzgalov ($0)


DETAILS
Roster Size: 23
NHL Salary Cap: $75,000,000
Cap Hit: $72,829,167
Cap Space: $2,170,833

That's a good looking team. Is that Williams contract about what he's going to be looking for?

 

[Beef Invictus]

just tell him You are taking him to a secret dinner roast in his honor. Along the way stop and get him a coffee and slip him some mind suggesting drugs in the coffee where he would listen to any idea you give him.

Thank you, but...

Tell him Chris Vandevelde will be there

This would probably be easier.

 

[The Madrigal]

That's a good looking team. Is that Williams contract about what he's going to be looking for?

That's what he made last year and I figure he will be looking to get about the same.