TSN: Florida was in on Stone, thought they could sign him long-term
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AchtzehnBaby
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Or they planned to let him go a long time ago. I am calling BS on the "we tried" from Dorion.
Gil Gunderson
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If Stone was willing to sign in multiple places, we should have gotten more.
mattlef
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Ottawa can match term and $$ - but what they cannot match is the structure.
That is the key part to these deals now - and its entirely due to EM's constant need to restructure his debt (because hes broke). If he has these massive signing bonuses on the books, they're a huge liability that cant spread along the term of the loan - meaning that he would be less likely to find creditors willing to take on the risk.
That, in itself, is exactly why we lost Stone, Duchene and Karlsson.
That is the key part to these deals now - and its entirely due to EM's constant need to restructure his debt (because hes broke). If he has these massive signing bonuses on the books, they're a huge liability that cant spread along the term of the loan - meaning that he would be less likely to find creditors willing to take on the risk.
That, in itself, is exactly why we lost Stone, Duchene and Karlsson.
NyQuil
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Pierre from Orleans
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The more I think about it the more I am open to thinking the plan was to always trade Stone. This stemming back way before the trade deadline. Stone kept things hush hush to "help" the Sens by not decreasing his value by making it known that he wanted out.
GrantLemons
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I honestly think Eugene said "Everyone must go". I get that that's decently warm take because it means all of this negotiating they've done is in bad faith, but part of me believes that was the order from day 1.
DaveMatthew
Bring in Peter
Grigori Denisenko was rated the #2 NHL affiliated prospect by TSN in January (Brannstrom was 11 on the same list), so he would have been enticing, although I doubt Florida would have offered him up.
Other than that, Borgstrom/Heponiemi/Tippett + 2019 1st would have been close, considering that 1st is likely a top 12 pick.
Spartachat
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Florida is in a worse financial state than Ottawa. Stone didn’t sign because he thought management was a gong show. Simple as that.
NyQuil
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Dorion already got pantsed once with Hoffman playing in the division.
I'm sure he wanted fan-favourite and all-around beast Mark Stone as far away as possible.
I'm sure he wanted fan-favourite and all-around beast Mark Stone as far away as possible.
GrantLemons
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Because when you're a rebuilding, basement dweller, it's important to not have your former players playing in town one time less than they would out West.
Priorities.
danielpalfredsson
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This could be true, but it's all conjecture if Stone wasn't made to talk to FLA.
Tallon saying we think we could have signed Stone to me just sounds like we could have matched VGK's terms.
If we find out that Stone was given permission to talk to multiple teams, multiple teams agreed on terms, and we still only got Brannstrom and a 2nd (oh and Lindberg...) then yes, we should have gotten a lot more. Though, I'd be surprised if the situation played out that way.
DaveMatthew
Bring in Peter
Well, hopefully not. Take the best offer in run. (I do think that all things considering, Brannstrom is the best that we could have expected, though).
The real question that should worry all Sens fans though is the thought that Mark Stone would have signed with the god damn Florida Panthers but he wouldn't/couldn't sign to stay here. That's as big a red flag as I've ever seen.
I get Vegas. I'd get Winnipeg, or Calgary. Hell, I'd rather be a fan of those teams than Ottawa.
But Florida? Florida!?
NyQuil
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NyQuil
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You're finding a new red flag while you're floating hip deep in a swimming pool filled with red flags.
DaveMatthew
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GrantLemons
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Wasn't for Hoffman. The fact they even consider that when we're going to be 31st until FYOUS is asinine.
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PeterSidorkiewicz
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Many people say this but Florida fans say differently. Apparently they rake in good cash because of events and ownership of the surrounding area next to the arena so their financial status is fine.
they have one of the most puopular stadiums in North America if I remember correctly.. theyre fine
Spartachat
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CTC is profitable too. They make good money from events and the huge rent they get from the Sens.
PeterSidorkiewicz
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But I believe the Panthers ownership also has development they own next to the arena too that brings in good cash. I just think the Panther fans know what theyre talking about since they follow the team the closest.
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rocketdan9
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This also leads me to believe Stone has had enough of the northeastern cold winters
