Confirmed with Link: Flames offer veteran forward Cammalleri Contract extension(Cammy still to decide)

[Pirate King Luffy]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444650

Mike Cammalleri may be staying with the Calgary Flames.

Cammalleri confirmed on Tuesday that general manager Brian Burke had offered him a contract, while Burke announced earlier in the day that an offer had been made.

It it is up to Cammy to accept or not.

Integrate this in the other Cammy thread if need need. Otherwise if I was the OP I would have made an edit to it.

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[Anglesmith]

Good negotiation tactics by Burke. Doing everything he can to make GMs aware that they aren't going to get anyone cheap.

 

[MarkGio]

Maybe this is a way for Burke to send a message to the players that tanking is not an option?

 

[The Red Mile]

Not sure how i feel about this. Not a big fan of Cammy, but if we where not offered a good return it is better to lock him up then to lose him. Just pray Burke did not offer him a no trade clause.

 

[Calculon]

To quote myself from the other thread:

Would rather Cammalleri be traded even if only for a second round pick than extend him. His value isn't about to grow.

I really hope he doesn't sign.

According to Bob McKenzie on TSN's Insider Trading, it's 'smart money' that Cammalleri's going to be traded.

 

[Bouma Fett*]

If it's a three year or less deal, I'm fine with it. You have to keep some good players around, and reach the floor. If the value was under a first round pick, it makes more sense to keep him. A second rounder likely won't end up as good a player as Cammalleri, and if it isn't a really good prospect, same thing. Getting a second rounder and a meh prospect doesn't really help the team now or in the future.

 

[MarkGio]

If it's a three year or less deal, I'm fine with it. You have to keep some good players around, and reach the floor. If the value was under a first round pick, it makes more sense to keep him. A second rounder likely won't end up as good a player as Cammalleri, and if it isn't a really good prospect, same thing. Getting a second rounder and a meh prospect doesn't really help the team now or in the future.

This is true. The Flames aren't short second tier prospects. But its also a matter of stacking the deck. If only 10% of the Flames prospects pan out to their potential, having 100 prospects results in 9 more NHLers than you would get if you had only 10 prospects.

 

[Bouma Fett*]

This is true. The Flames aren't short second tier prospects. But its also a matter of stacking the deck. If only 10% of the Flames prospects pan out to their potential, having 100 prospects results in 9 more NHLers than you would get if you had only 10 prospects.

While I do agree to an extent, you got to keep some of your good players. We can try to trade guys like Stempniak for an extra third rounder, or something. If we had more decent players, I'd say sure to trading Cammy, but we don't really have anyone to replace him. If we trade anyone, I'd rather it be Wideman, because at least we have Brodie, Gio and Russell.

But my main guess is the offers weren't up to snuff for Cammaller to make the move worthwhile, so Burke is trying to sign him. If he can't sign him to terms he like,s maybe he will pull the trigger anyways

 

[MarkGio]

While I do agree to an extent, you got to keep some of your good players. We can try to trade guys like Stempniak for an extra third rounder, or something. If we had more decent players, I'd say sure to trading Cammy, but we don't really have anyone to replace him. If we trade anyone, I'd rather it be Wideman, because at least we have Brodie, Gio and Russell.

But my main guess is the offers weren't up to snuff for Cammaller to make the move worthwhile, so Burke is trying to sign him. If he can't sign him to terms he like,s maybe he will pull the trigger anyways

For sure. It would be pretty dumb to trade Cammy for a prospect that we hope turns into a Mike Cammalleri-type of player.

 

[King In The North]

Good negotiation tactics by Burke. Doing everything he can to make GMs aware that they aren't going to get anyone cheap.

This. Worst case scenario we keep a proven top 6 player as we continue forward. Best case scenario his trade value increases/does not decrease and we get a good package coming back.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Sign him to a 1 year extension and do this again next year. Obviously the offers have not been good enough to make a trade worthwhile.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Lets wildly speculate on Term/$.

My guess is 5.25M Per/2 Years.

 

[MarkGio]

Lets wildly speculate on Term/$.

My guess is 5.25M Per/2 Years.

Hemsky contract. 5 million/ 2 years

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

1 Million per 2 seasons. That would fetch us a lot

 

[MuffinMerc]

 

[Bouma Fett*]

I'm going to say 3 years at the same 6 million

 

[tyflames]

I wouldn't pay him over 4.5. He certainly hasn't played good enough lately to be paid higher than that. Especially with the injury plagued season. He's gonna be tough to trade for good value and I'm not so sure worthy of a large contract.

 

[Volica]

Absolutely a rope a dope by Burke. Says to other GMs that this is a good enough player to want to hold onto. Just makes him worth more honestly; especially when Cammy says he loves Calgary.

Great move. He won't resign.

 

[Short Shift]

My guess is Mike will ask for more than Burke is willing to pay, forcing the deadline deal, or barring that, he goes to UFA.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

While I do agree to an extent, you got to keep some of your good players. We can try to trade guys like Stempniak for an extra third rounder, or something. If we had more decent players, I'd say sure to trading Cammy, but we don't really have anyone to replace him. If we trade anyone, I'd rather it be Wideman, because at least we have Brodie, Gio and Russell.

But my main guess is the offers weren't up to snuff for Cammaller to make the move worthwhile, so Burke is trying to sign him. If he can't sign him to terms he like,s maybe he will pull the trigger anyways

I'd argue that Stempniak is equally as useful to this team as Cammalleri, if not moreso. Cammalleri is a soft minutes scorer. Stempniak isn't as good offensively, but he's a better possession player, better fore/backchecker, and seems to do well in tougher minutes. And Cammalleri will get more on the trade market because of his scoring ability so he makes a better trade piece.

 

[fallsviewafro*]

Sign him to a 1 year extension and do this again next year. Obviously the offers have not been good enough to make a trade worthwhile.

I'd say so. I'd rather hang on to him and have him around the young guys if his trade value isn't there.

 

[BVicious]

Id rather trade him now, sign him in the summer. If he really wants to play here, he'll take what we offer.

 

[Skobel24]

I really hope he doesn't re-sign. With Hudler, Stajan, Backlund, Glencross, we have a decent amount of veterans. Plenty of guys in the AHL who will likely be potentially stepping up, and plenty of UFA's available.

 

[berto14]

I know it's pretty much unheard of in the NHL but it COULD also be an attempt to sign-and-trade Cammy to up his value to certain teams. I know several GM's have said they have no interest in acquiring a pure rental while others would prefer not to carry salary over to next year for salary cap reasons. But if Burke/Cammy came to a tentative agreement on an extension it would allow Burke the flexibility to pitch Cammy as either a pure rental OR with a signed extension, whichever maximizes his value. Like I said, I know it pretty much doesn't happen ever in the NHL but if there's anyone I can see trying it, it's Burke.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Sign & trade was the first thing that popped into my mind, to be honest.

It could be why Cammalleri is still thinking about it - deciding whether to basically accept the trade long term to a different team.

The weird thing is how open both Burke & Squid have been. You usually don't hear it directly from the GM and player involved.