Fixing the PowerPlay - 2024 edition

[surixon]

My guess is that they wanted to keep PP2 intact to try to form some sort of cohesiveness in at least one group moving forward

Then why has he cut their time. Pp1 is now routinely out there for a good minute and 20 seconds per pp.

 

[LowLefty]

What I meant by inferior placeholders is moving up guys like Lowry and Iafallo who are bottom 6 players and dont have much business being on a top pp unit. Especially when you have the alternative to easily move the two best players from PP unit two over. One of which is outperforming everyone on PP1, and Nino who's actually outperformed Vilardi in the bumper this year.

Sure more talent helps, but it's a lazy narrative when you still have good talent available that is underutilized. I'll take a quote out of Bones's playback, he needs to look for solutions and stop making excuses.

Bones is struggling with the PP -
I'll give him some credit in having an idea of what he wants - but the players don't appear to be interested - so that's on him (and the players).
Looks like he's trying to get some beef in front while 55/13 are out and then convince his shooters (or anyone for that matter) to shoot - but they won't.

I agree with those that feel we need a different approach - and I'm concerned that Bonus isn't influencing this group into playing it the way he wants then to.
Even then, I'm not sure his way is the right way when you consider the talent he have which should be enough to put up points.

IMO, when things are this broke, just get pucks on the net and have bodies there to pick up the rebounds and avoid the turnover. This might be what Bones is asking for now but it's real hard to tell when none of this is happening.

I won't bother shifting the deck chairs - doesn't really seem to matter where we put the guys - they continue to over pass and avoid shooting opportunities.

 

[surixon]

Bones is struggling with the PP -
I'll give him some credit in having an idea of what he wants - but the players don't appear to be interested - so that's on him (and the players).
Looks like he's trying to get some beef in front while 55/13 are out and then convince his shooters (or anyone for that matter) to shoot - but they won't.

I agree with those that feel we need a different approach - and I'm concerned that Bonus isn't influencing this group into playing it the way he wants then to.
Even then, I'm not sure his way is the right way when you consider the talent he have which should be enough to put up points.

IMO, when things are this broke, just get pucks on the net and have bodies there to pick up the rebounds and avoid the turnover. This might be what Bones is asking for now but it's real hard to tell when none of this is happening.

I won't bother shifting the deck chairs - doesn't really seem to matter where we put the guys - they continue to over pass and avoid shooting opportunities.

Yeah, I'm sure he wants it simplified. But as I said in a prior post it's easier said then done to just put bodies infront and shoot for tips. Teams are actively taking away those shots because our players are too damn static and move the puck so slow. It allows the opposition to get into those shooting lanes. So imo it's not necessarily a question of our players not shooting as it is they have no lane to shoot when they get the puck.

As I said a month ago they need to burn the whole thing to the ground and build something completely different. What we are doing isn't at all working and hasn't for half a year now.

To me no no matter what scheme you run it starts with fast puck movement. Whether it be long range shots looking for tips, or cross seam passes, the pk structure needs to be pulled out of shape to get those looks.

 

[AlaskaJet]

Volare screening the goalie on one powerplay and someone like Nino/Lowry on the other one for starters.

Might add Barron..

 

[surixon]

Just look at where all our shots are coming from. They are coming from KC or JoMo. It is incredibly easy to shut down two shooters. The coaches need to add far more points of attack.

 

[Aggie204]

Just came back from a Moose game, holy hell their special teams sucked hard. Maybe it’s time to revamp it from top to bottom.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

I'm not sure what the solution is but Perfetti on the top unit playing in a spot that plays to his strengths is where I'd start. A lot of the time that he was on PP1 he would immediately rotate to net front and would essentially be eliminated from the proceedings.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

That's the power play we are running now... why keep doing it? We are not getting net front consistently and if we do, its Lowry who has stone hands.

When healthy
Vilardi-Iafallo in the slot
KFC-Morrissey-Scheif

Barron-Nino
Ehlers-Dillon-Perfetti

Shoot shoot shoot

Iafallo on the pp? Man ppl over rating this Brandon Tanev as a jet clone.

 

[WolfHouse]

Iafallo on the pp? Man ppl over rating this Brandon Tanev as a jet clone.

Any suggestions for alternate personnel are welcome... but that's not really your style.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I leave it to the coaches here to figure out the details but -
It always seems to me like the Jets throw away the man advantage.
1) 5 to 4 zone entries should be easier than 5-5 and yet ........ Also, other teams don't seem to have that much difficulty with entries against us but that 'seems' might just be bias. But regardless of that 5-4 zone entries shouldn't be as difficult as they are.
2) That perimeter umbrella formation leaves shooting lanes that can be covered by 4 defenders. The PP needs to get the defenders having to move as much as possible to open up lanes. That means the PPlayers and the puck need to be moving. You can't tire out the D if you don't make them move. It helps more than a little to also make the goalie move as much as possible.
3) Location, location, location uhh, I mean movement, movement, movement.

Just my $.03 worth.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

It's the coaches job to make use of what he has, not what he wishes he has. That is one area I haven't been impressed with Bones. He hasn't shown the flexibility to adapt his pieces on the fly on the PP. Injuries happen so you need ro be able to shift gears, not put in place inferior placeholders.

I also question if he actually understands what he has in terms of pieces. A coach should be able to reward and recognize performance. Perfetti has been the best PP performer this year. For a PP unit that is struggling you would think you'd want to play your best performer more, not less which is what the coaching staff has done.

Since the changes made to the pp on December 19, our first unit has 2 of the 7 PP goals scored (One of which was when Perfetti took Scheifele's spot on the hb).

Perfetti has been in on 5 of the 7 goals and has an over 9 ppp/60.

There is a complete disconnect here in terms of performance vs deployment. Either play pp unit two the bulk of the pp until unit 1 actually does something to warrant the ice time they are getting or pull your head out of your ass and recognize that you are under utilizing your best pp weapon and build a unit around him and play it properly.

In Jr, Perfetti was regarded not just as a PP specialist but as some kind of PP savant. We got to see it in the WJC. Whichever unit he is on should be PP1. Play him in whatever position/role he prefers.

 

[ecolad]

Just look at where all our shots are coming from. They are coming from KC or JoMo. It is incredibly easy to shut down two shooters. The coaches need to add far more points of attack.

Your comments here and in earlier posts are pretty much right on the mark. But I don`t see any evidence from Bones` post game comments that he grasps the issues with the specialty teams. When he first started talking about "change" weeks ago, he clearly was fixated only on possible player moves, and had no intention of changing the way the PP was set up to function tactically or otherwise.

I`m rather tired of hearing the old cliches like "shoot more" and "get to the net". We need a fundamental rethink of how to better gain the offensive zone, and then, how to pressure the defensive box until something breaks down and a good scoring chance materializes. It is no secret at all that our sole set play is to try set up a onetimer with Connor - easily defended and even anticipated for potential breakaway as we saw last game.

Our guys are always at a disadvantage competing against other top special teams and imo deserve better.

 

[snowkiddin]

It’s an interesting position to be in. The PP has been putrid (not even below average, it’s sucked) for over half the season now so you gotta think there’s pressure on Lauer — and that he should lose his job in short order if it doesn’t turn around quickly — but on that same token, the team is playing well overall, so do you really want to make a coaching change? Probably not.

 

[Jack7222]

It’s an interesting position to be in. The PP has been putrid (not even below average, it’s sucked) for over half the season now so you gotta think there’s pressure on Lauer — and that he should lose his job in short order if it doesn’t turn around quickly — but on that same token, the team is playing well overall, so do you really want to make a coaching change? Probably not.

I heard Lauer's seat is so hot that if he were to resign in three years Chevy wouldn't even try that hard to talk him out of it...

 

[roccerfeller]

I vividly recall last season when Lauer was out we (aka the HFJets board) lamented it as special teams was a strong point

What happened?

 

[Hobble]

Looks like we’ll have to see if getting Scheifele back does help us out.

 

[Jet]

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Looks like we’ll have to see if getting Scheifele back does help us out.

That's it, we're hiring gpt to fix the pp

 

[Jets 31]

Honestly this can't go on much longer , time to let Brad go and hire someone else or let Arneil run the PP for a while. The Jets have enough talent that we should at least be middle of the pack when it comes to PP success .

 

[AlaskaJet]

Until we start practicing fast passing on the fly (no stopping, looking around, telegraphing) our cycling will be insufficient. KFC, Scheiff and possibly Ehlers get a pass here.
Everyone else needs to get ahead of the play without stopping.
Sorry if I’m a broken record about this.
Go Jets!

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

not enough chaos on the PP.

 

[Crocket]

We have ineffective movement and our sniper in the wrong spot. Connor and Scheifele have the best shots but we have Connor way off to the side where he can occasionally get a one timer, but because we aren't moving, it's predictable and not often a great angle.

I'd put Connor more in the slot, when we get the puck moving. The other team than has to cover him, or let someone else open up that side, Ehlers and Scheifele get room if they do. If not, get Connor shooting from the slot, with traffic.

I'd probably put Pionk on PP1 because he gets puck through and has a decent shot.

Either way, we don't generate shots or chances standing around and having our best players in less than ideal spots.

 

[surixon]

We have ineffective movement and our sniper in the wrong spot. Connor and Scheifele have the best shots but we have Connor way off to the side where he can occasionally get a one timer, but because we aren't moving, it's predictable and not often a great angle.

I'd put Connor more in the slot, when we get the puck moving. The other team than has to cover him, or let someone else open up that side, Ehlers and Scheifele get room if they do. If not, get Connor shooting from the slot, with traffic.

I'd probably put Pionk on PP1 because he gets puck through and has a decent shot.

Either way, we don't generate shots or chances standing around and having our best players in less than ideal spots.

I agree with your thoughts on the shooters. KC isn't being used correctly. He's our best pure finisher but he scores almost all of his goals from in tight. He doesn't have an over powering shot so having him shoot from distance is ineffective. Murat did a nice breakdown of his shot earlier in the year, and it's his ability to be deceptive and place the puck from in close that allows him to be as lethal as he is. As you said he'd be better in the slot/bumper or possibly even coming out from the corner to the front of the net to shoot (where he played his first few seasons on the pp).

I think you need to get Perfetti and his playmaking and smarts on pp 1.

 

[Jets 31]

I agree with your thoughts on the shooters. KC isn't being used correctly. He's our best pure finisher but he scores almost all of his goals from in tight. He doesn't have an over powering shot so having him shoot from distance is ineffective. Murat did a nice breakdown of his shot earlier in the year, and it's his ability to be deceptive and place the puck from in close that allows him to be as lethal as he is. As you said he'd be better in the slot/bumper or possibly even coming out from the corner to the front of the net to shoot (where he played his first few seasons on the pp).

I think you need to get Perfetti and his playmaking and smarts on pp 1.

I would like Perfetti basically behind the net feeding Connor and Scheifele , Perfetti is a good passer and Scheifele and Connor have the best one timers on the team.

 

[surixon]

I would like Perfetti basically behind the net feeding Connor and Scheifele , Perfetti is a good passer and Scheifele and Connor have the best one timers on the team.

Definitely something to try. Whereabouts would you have KC and Mark positioned?

 

[Jets 31]

Definitely something to try. Whereabouts would you have KC and Mark positioned?

I would have Scheifele right in front like he was a long time ago and Connor more or less in the same spot he is now just closer to the net. I agree Connor is too far away from the net for his shot. I think the Jets are too far away from the net because like you say nobody really has the cannon to shoot from where they are setting up right now.