First round -- McD involved in as many goals (1-11-12, 5 GP) as entire Leafs team (12 goals, 7 GP)

[daver]

Someone will probably tell you McDavid isn't a playoff performer because his team hasn't won a Cup.

Someone will probably tell you McDavid IS a playoff performer because his team isn't the Leafs.

 

[SImpelton]

IMHO this is an indictment of Brendan Shannahan. he's ultimately the architect of this team and he signs off on roster decisions.

the coach has changed, the GM has changed, players have come and gone, and the problems persist, meaning the only remaining thing that hasn't been changed is the overall vision for the team. Time for a new President.

 

[CanadienShark]

Someone will probably tell you McDavid IS a playoff performer because his team isn't the Leafs.

What about Crosby?

 

[daver]

What about Crosby?

Whoosh! Please don't make me explain the joke.

Hint: it was about the Leafs' ongoing futility.

 

[NVious]

The problem is Toronto just doesn't have any superstars, once we get a few guys we can pay like McDavid I'm sure they would perform.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Not surprising. McDavid and Draisaitl are proven playoff performers. The Oilers issues have always been the supporting cast.

 

[lionsDen]

How many were on the power play?

RefOILERS?

 

[Steven Toast]

To those saying the Leafs had a harder opponent in the Kings, maybe. But I don't think that TO's perimeter style cycle offense would have fared well against the Kings either. The Oilers used a combination of rush offense and blue paint goals to beat LA. The Leafs haven't shown they are capable of scoring this way. Its no secret why the struggle to score more than 2 goals per game once the playoffs start.

 

[NVious]

To those saying the Leafs had a harder opponent in the Kings, maybe. But I don't think that TO's perimeter style cycle offense would have fared well against the Kings either. The Oilers used a combination of rush offense and blue paint goals to beat LA. The Leafs haven't shown they are capable of scoring this way. Its no secret why the struggle to score more than 2 goals per game once the playoffs start.

Hyman outscored the Leafs core 4.

Hyman had 7
Nylander had 3
Matthews/Marner/Tavares had 1

46 million=6 goals
5.5 million=7 goals

At least we didn't give Zach the extra 3-500k, we wouldn't have been able to afford Auston/Willie/Mitch and JT!!!

 

[Spawn]

How many were on the power play?

RefOILERS?

Who cares?

I’m sure Leaf fans wouldn’t have complained if their PP went 45% like the Oilers did in the first round.

 

[DitchMarner]

The leafs inability to score in the playoffs is perplexing. You would think they could explode for 6 goals based on the talent they have. But they always get 2 and it seems like they have to move heaven and earth to get them.

They went for a more defensive and physical approach than they took in the season.

I guess they figured that they had a better chance at winning that way. It could have worked, too, if they had gotten a little more scoring out of their top guys or a timely depth goal like the one Faksa provided in game seven last night.

Marner's late-series (games six and seven) playoff stats the last number of years are bad.

Mitch Marner Stats In Game 6 Career | StatMuse

Mitchell Marner has a goal, an assist and a plus-minus of +3 in 7 games in the playoffs in his career.

www.statmuse.com

Mitch Marner Points In Game 7s | StatMuse

Mitchell Marner has recorded 2 points in the playoffs in his career.

www.statmuse.com

Their PP was the main thing that kept them from having a chance at doing what you mentioned. It it hadn't been almost completely useless, it might have given them a chance at some point to get ahead by a couple of goals, forcing BOS to have to play a more wide-open style and giving their stars more time and space to do further damage offensively.

 

[Juxta Position]

some of the more vocal leaf fans talked trash about McD all season long, and yet he continues to elevate himself above Matthews.

Elevate above Matthews? Saying he elevated above Matthews is suggesting they were at some point on the same level....Mathews has NEVER been remotely the player that McDavid is.

 

[Lt Dan]

Swayman is elite and the Kings are a tire fire.

Not sure if this is a fair comparison

 

[LivingRentFree]

Lmao. Because McDavid has faced Vezina calibre goalies so often. *Checks notes* the only time he faced a Vezina calibre goalie, they were swept by Winnipeg and he had 4 points and was -2.

People need to stop pretending the situations are similar. The Oilers have never had to face constant Vezina trophy winning goalies. The leafs have. That’s where it ends.

Elevate above Matthews? Saying he elevated above Matthews is suggesting they were at some point on the same level....Mathews has NEVER been remotely the player that McDavid is.

You’re right. An MVP winning rocket Richard winner that is nominated for the Selke is not even remotely close to a guy that has accomplished the exact same in the playoffs, while having a significantly easier path year in and year out.

 

[Steven Toast]

Lmao. Because McDavid has faced Vezina calibre goalies so often. *Checks notes* the only time he faced a Vezina calibre goalie, they were swept by Winnipeg and he had 4 points and was -2.

People need to stop pretending the situations are similar. The Oilers have never had to face constant Vezina trophy winning goalies. The leafs have. That’s where it ends.


You’re right. An MVP winning rocket Richard winner that is nominated for the Selke is not even remotely close to a guy that has accomplished the exact same in the playoffs, while having a significantly easier path year in and year out.

Seems McDavid lives rent free in your mind.

 

[Juxta Position]

Lmao. Because McDavid has faced Vezina calibre goalies so often. *Checks notes* the only time he faced a Vezina calibre goalie, they were swept by Winnipeg and he had 4 points and was -2.

People need to stop pretending the situations are similar. The Oilers have never had to face constant Vezina trophy winning goalies. The leafs have. That’s where it ends.


You’re right. An MVP winning rocket Richard winner that is nominated for the Selke is not even remotely close to a guy that has accomplished the exact same in the playoffs, while having a significantly easier path year in and year out.

accomplished the exact same? when did Matthews score a second round, series clinching overtime goal?

Look at career points in the playoffs, you know, when the games actually matter. the Leafs want Matthews to carry their team to a Cup, when Matthews isn't even able to carry McDavids jock.

Matthews has proven himself over 8 years of futility to be a soft, overrated diva who cannot contribute when his team needs him the most. But keep winning those Rockets papi, I'm sure they make up for all the first round disappointments.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Lmao. Because McDavid has faced Vezina calibre goalies so often. *Checks notes* the only time he faced a Vezina calibre goalie, they were swept by Winnipeg and he had 4 points and was -2.

People need to stop pretending the situations are similar. The Oilers have never had to face constant Vezina trophy winning goalies. The leafs have. That’s where it ends.


You’re right. An MVP winning rocket Richard winner that is nominated for the Selke is not even remotely close to a guy that has accomplished the exact same in the playoffs, while having a significantly easier path year in and year out.

LivingRentFree

 

[Buck Naked]

You’re right. An MVP winning rocket Richard winner that is nominated for the Selke is not even remotely close to a guy that has accomplished the exact same in the playoffs, while having a significantly easier path year in and year out.

You're right that he's right.

 

[lionsDen]

Who cares?

I’m sure Leaf fans wouldn’t have complained if their PP went 45% like the Oilers did in the first round.

Considering I’m an Avs fan and all the bluster oilers fans have had about the avalanche and their pp’s the last two years… calling us the refalanche.just find your comments extremely ironical and a tad bit amusing

 

[Zenos]

Lmao. Because McDavid has faced Vezina calibre goalies so often. *Checks notes* the only time he faced a Vezina calibre goalie, they were swept by Winnipeg and he had 4 points and was -2.

People need to stop pretending the situations are similar. The Oilers have never had to face constant Vezina trophy winning goalies. The leafs have. That’s where it ends.


You’re right. An MVP winning rocket Richard winner that is nominated for the Selke is not even remotely close to a guy that has accomplished the exact same in the playoffs, while having a significantly easier path year in and year out.

I don't think it's fair to measure playoff "accomplishments" simply as a Stanley Cup on/off switch.

Surely we can agree that 5 total series victories (including a run to the conference finals) is better than 1, no?

I mean you're really going to discount McDavid's playoff resume, but at the same time include a selke nomination as some kind of argument?

 

[La Bamba]

Swayman is elite and the Kings are a tire fire.

Not sure if this is a fair comparison

The Oilers made the Kings a tire fire. The Kings are a solid team that simply got picked apart by superior talent

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Easy to ride Hyman’s coattails, not impressed

 

[TGWL]

A bit surprised no one's talking about this (at least not that I found).

Obviously not quite apples to apples (points are not goals, and BOS was imo significantly better defensively than LA), but it's kind of wild to realize that in the first round McDavid by himself (5 GP) was involved in the same number of goals as the entire Leafs roster over 7 games.

McD 1-11-12 (5 gp), Leafs 12 goals (7 gp).

Not an Edmonton fan by any means but man is that guy fun to watch

Nobody is talking about it because they didn't play the team team. There's no point in comparing other than to poke fun at the Leafs or say "Man, how much better is McDavid then those big 3/4."

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Lmao. Because McDavid has faced Vezina calibre goalies so often. *Checks notes* the only time he faced a Vezina calibre goalie, they were swept by Winnipeg and he had 4 points and was -2.

People need to stop pretending the situations are similar. The Oilers have never had to face constant Vezina trophy winning goalies. The leafs have. That’s where it ends.


You’re right. An MVP winning rocket Richard winner that is nominated for the Selke is not even remotely close to a guy that has accomplished the exact same in the playoffs, while having a significantly easier path year in and year out.

There's always an excuse for Matthews and the rest of the Choker 4 not producing in the playoffs.

 

[Dieseloil]

Drai has been the best oiler stop this

Which is a good thing to have.